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Old 11-17-2010, 03:02 AM
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battery won't hold charge after parts swap

i recently began driving my 80 240D again, and after dropping and cleaning the tank, replacing fuel hoses, etc., the car has run better than it ever has during my now five year ownership. i also replaced the fuel sending unit, fog lamps, and turn signals, all sourced from an 85 300D turbo. since then, the battery will not hold a charge.
i checked the voltage regulator and it was toast so i ordered up a new one (awesome turnaround time from fastlane, per usual) and put it on. now, the car runs fine for a nice drive of 20-30 miles (after spending the night on the trickle charge), then i'll shut it off and the next time i go to drive it, it either won't start at all or will go for a little bit and then after a few minutes into the trip the lights start dimming, the radio shuts off, the windshield wipers move very slowly. is it time to just admit defeat and go for a new alternator, or is it something else that could be the problem? i should mention that it did this every so often before the new lights/sending unit were put in.
The only hitch throughout the work i've done so far was with the sending unit, in that i unplugged the wiring for it and it sat like that for a while, as i was waiting for some free time to do the fuel system work all together. i drove the car with these wires loose, about 150-200 miles or so. while unplugging it, the plastic housing for the wires broke off. could this have any effect on what's happening now, or is that a non-issue? i plan on getting the alternator checked out tomorrow, but in the meantime, any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 11-17-2010, 07:33 AM
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If you have a DVM, get the engine started and check Voltage across the battery. With engine running it should be somewhere in the area of about 13.5 to 14.5 Volts. If it is, then your charging system is working.

If the charging system is working, remove a battery cable and set up your DVM as an Ammeter and put in series with the battery cable and battery post. Your DVM should be good for at least 10 Amps to do this. With everything in the car turned off you should read something less than 50 milliAmps. If you are reading more than 50 milliAmps begin pulling fuses one at a time while watching the ammeter. When the current drops radically after removing a fuse, that is your offending circuit. The key will need to be on for this.

If the charging system is verified AND there is no appreciable current seen in the above paragraph procedure, have the battery tested.

Hope this helps.
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Old 11-17-2010, 07:42 AM
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X2 with Larry.
You can take his word as being on the money!!!!!
The testing with the DVM as an amp meter is done without the motor running.
Make sure all your earth straps are good & clean.
The connections in the plug in the back of the alt need to be tight & free of corrosion.
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Old 11-17-2010, 09:25 AM
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If you have a DVM, get the engine started and check Voltage across the battery. With engine running it should be somewhere in the area of about 13.5 to 14.5 Volts. If it is, then your charging system is working.

If the charging system is working, remove a battery cable and set up your DVM as an Ammeter and put in series with the battery cable and battery post. Your DVM should be good for at least 10 Amps to do this. With everything in the car turned off you should read something less than 50 milliAmps. If you are reading more than 50 milliAmps begin pulling fuses one at a time while watching the ammeter. When the current drops radically after removing a fuse, that is your offending circuit. The key will need to be on for this.

If the charging system is verified AND there is no appreciable current seen in the above paragraph procedure, have the battery tested.

Hope this helps.
be sure and don't turn the key to the glow position when making this test. accessory only!
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Old 11-17-2010, 10:44 AM
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be sure and don't turn the key to the glow position when making this test. accessory only!
Good catch!
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&/or have the car warm so it will start without glowing and disconnect the glow system. Start car & measure voltage output. I've had a bad glow timer stay on which pulled voltage down making it look like the alternator was not charging properly. You don't want to pull the alternator only to have it test good on a bench.
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It's actually the belt gemstones that's causing the problems. How can I remove the tensioner?
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Old 11-20-2010, 02:27 PM
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Tensioner*** not gemstones. Thanks again autocorrect.
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How can I remove the tensioner?

two long bolts through the tensioner body.


one in the back that goes through a mounting bracket on the block

one near the adjusting nut that goes through the alt.
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Old 11-20-2010, 06:26 PM
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thank you!

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