Has anyone made the swap using (Vickers pump 124 460 15 80) from 124, 300TE for example into 123 300TD etc.,model to run their SLS. Changed my head out without drive pad. So I`m looking at options. Thanks for all your responses, they are always appreciated.

Are you saying that you no longer have a self leveling suspension pump attachment because you've replaced your head with a head that does not have this drive facility at the front?

If so I guess it would be easier to find a head with the SLS pump drive shaft. There isn't all that much space for another pump next to the existing power steering pump - there is a bit more space above the alternator I suppose...

This doesn't seem to me to be a quick and easy fix. Let us know how you get on - good luck

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1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone
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1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing

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Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!

This is the way I plan to do it when I fit the 606 to the W123....

The 606 has the dual PS/SLS pump unit, both pumps in the same case with one fluid inlet and two outlet as I recall, so the fluid sent to the two systems is common and from a common reservoir....

My only issue was whether either the SLS would cope with P/S fluid OR the Steering box be upset by SLS fluid....

The W210 used SLS type fluid for both as far as I could tell....

Guess the main question is--What fluid to use? P/S or SLS fluid. From what Ive seen, the SLS is pretty forgiving as to the fluid type. many here seem to use Hydraulic fluid with no ill effects.

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W123, 1985 300TD Wagon, 256K,
-Most recent M.B. purchase, Cost-a-plenty, Gulps BioDiesel extravagantly, and I love it like an old dog.

W114, 1975 280E Custard Yellow,
-Great above decks needs chassis welding--Really will do it this year....

One member here fitted an electric hydraulic pump when he lost the pump in the head. There's a thread with pictures somewhere on here.

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1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

I would think a decent electric one could handle it....

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'01 SL500 - 103k(km) - dad's (OC-110,000km)
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REally? the 87 TD I have has dual inlets and outlets. ps fluid in the steering portion, and sls fluid in the sls reservoir.

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My drivers:
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1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=198986&highlight=sls+electric+pump

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1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

Head is already changed out. Was very good price,& worked out great to repair warped head issue I had. Went from avg. 100-110 compression up to 240-310 stone cold eng. So I should be able to get it to run now. Have to get block heater for it first(Now that its so cold) & install turbo,belts,steering pump,water stuff. Crossing my fingers.

Saw post on electric motor idea, I might go that route too. Tandem pump mentioned is one unit but fluids are independent of one another. I was wandering if it was possible to install it on a 123 or if someone had done it. Going by photos iv`e seen it should not be too much problem putting it in its place. If anyone has Elect. pump model ideas I look forward to any suggestions you all have on that too. Thanks again.

Cant be 100% certain, but I'm 95% certain it is...

I recently scrapped a W210 1998 car for its 606TD engine and trans complete.

One thing I recall is that the car had only the one reservoir of fluid and that there was only three pipes to that pump. It contained a pale greenish fluid on all three pipes....
--I was rushed--And it was raining....

Next time I'm over the garage where my 606 lives, I'll check this out....

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W123, 1985 300TD Wagon, 256K,
-Most recent M.B. purchase, Cost-a-plenty, Gulps BioDiesel extravagantly, and I love it like an old dog.

W114, 1975 280E Custard Yellow,
-Great above decks needs chassis welding--Really will do it this year....

That looks like one great solution - especially if you can incorporate Alastair's sphere idea. It would be even better if you had a plenum chamber - a sphere split with a liquid and a gas side then it would reduce any surges from pressure relief valves and pumps. This would be a bit gentler on the system. It behaves in a hydraulic system a little bit like a shock absorber and in the event of pump failure it gives a little bit of a 'push' due to the gas pressure.

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1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone
1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!
1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing

I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior



Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!

AFt and the other---its All hydraullic fluid.

Not to bring up a old tread but for anyone interested im going to mod a 1988 300TE PS pump to fit a 617....other then longer lines and maybe different fitting the hard part is going to be changing the pulley and making it sit back further with a custom bracket ill keep the tread update with pix and progress.

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my 95TE tandem pump also has two reservoirs. on pump reservoir for the power steering, and remote reservoir for the SLS... totally separate fluid systems same pump.

also the 97 S500 I worked on was the same,
and the 2000S500 I worked on same.

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"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!

LOL check this out some poor guy in europe bought this car from the USA and someone swapped motors and did this to fix the sls problem......its not strong enough but guess it works LOL

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WOW... I mean, WOW... I bet that pump runs dry a LOT!

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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!