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Old 12-17-2010, 09:47 PM
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Quick question re fan shroud

I was doing some work on my '82 240D, and wanted to remove the fan shroud to give me just a little more room. The shroud was original, and, when I tried to remove the clips, broke around these two points. Since it could not be put back in place, I removed it (in pieces). GAAH!

I've got a new shroud coming in. I'm thinking I'll need to remove the radiator to get the shroud back in place around the fan, then reinstall the radiator. Am I correct? Is there a simpler way of replacing it?

Thanks in advance for your help!

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Old 12-17-2010, 09:58 PM
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I like pulling the fan and clutch. Just 4 annoying little bolts that usually gall...

but it beats refilling the coolant.
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Old 12-18-2010, 09:52 AM
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On the recent vacuum-pump debacle on my '84 300TD, I couldn't get an open 10mm wrench to work onthe tiny fan-clutch bolts, so I wound up pulling the radiator (Twice!)
On a 240D though, there should be enough room to get a socket or box-wrench on the bolts in front of the plastic fan.

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Old 12-18-2010, 10:25 AM
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On the recent vacuum-pump debacle on my '84 300TD, I couldn't get an open 10mm wrench to work onthe tiny fan-clutch bolts, so I wound up pulling the radiator (Twice!)
On a 240D though, there should be enough room to get a socket or box-wrench on the bolts in front of the plastic fan.

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Most people grind down the end of a 10mm box wrench to get on those bolts.
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Old 12-18-2010, 10:42 AM
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I've been driving without a fan shroud. The thing was absolutely annoying.

I may or may not replace it. I like the immediate access to all of the gizmos down below.
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Old 12-18-2010, 12:37 PM
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I've been driving without a fan shroud. The thing was absolutely annoying.

I may or may not replace it. I like the immediate access to all of the gizmos down below.

in summer, you may find some cooling issues under loaded, low speed conditions.

the shroud directs the vacuum created by the fan to the front of the radiator.
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Old 12-18-2010, 02:00 PM
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Most people grind down the end of a 10mm box wrench to get on those bolts.
I was wondering what I had ground down my 10mm for!
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Old 12-18-2010, 07:04 PM
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Most people grind down the end of a 10mm box wrench to get on those bolts.
I was out of town without my usuall big box of tools, so I was reluctant to modify the only 10mm box-wrench I had with me.
Fortunately, I was able to free the shroud without breakage, and my TD is a stick so no messy tranny-cooler lines to deal with.

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Old 12-18-2010, 07:13 PM
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in summer, you may find some cooling issues under loaded, low speed conditions.

the shroud directs the vacuum created by the fan to the front of the radiator.

I'll grab one when i'm out on the left coast
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Old 12-18-2010, 07:47 PM
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I have never had any trouble removing the bolts that hold the fan to the water pump. It just takes time and having the right tools.

But that being said it is a snap to remove the radiator. You do have to drain it and unbolt the oil cooler from it, but after all of that it just lifts in and out.

It is, as we used to say, six of one and half a dozed of another.
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Old 12-18-2010, 07:48 PM
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As long as you are in there....

If you can pick up a fan off a 300D with a metal blade and a clutch it will fit and will cool much better than the plastic fan.

It is a bit more noise, though.
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Old 12-18-2010, 08:03 PM
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I have never had any trouble removing the bolts that hold the fan to the water pump. It just takes time and having the right tools.

But that being said it is a snap to remove the radiator. You do have to drain it and unbolt the oil cooler from it, but after all of that it just lifts in and out.

It is, as we used to say, six of one and half a dozed of another.
As the plastic radiator hose-fittings often become brittle with age, I might have had second thoughts about pulling the radiator, but I replaced it with a new one two years ago, right after I bought the car. The biggest hassle with pulling the radiator was getting the engine oil-cooler brackets properly secured during reinstallation.
I'll deal with those fan-clutch bolts when I need to replace the waterpump.

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