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Old 01-06-2011, 02:22 AM
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PNP Sightings

Haven`t been to PNP for over a month , I was having withdrawls. checked out the Moss landing yard.

89 300TE Black 120500K picked over pretty good, but did have the cross bars on the roof. seems on the 123 wagons these are rare. how about the 124 wagons?

86 230E 5-spd manual. I pulled the shifter and shift rods.
there is a plate on the lower left front, rivited on. "Original Mercedes Benz Tauschaggregat" with numbers " 126 260 1004 and 276848".

I haven`t seen this on a gear box before. would this be a replaced box from MB? maybe a new one under warranty? also the bell housing looked different. probably wouldn`t fit one of the Diesels, 60x variety.
the FW would most likely be different also.

Tomarrow I`ll see if I can hit the 2 PNP in San Jose.

Charlie

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

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Old 01-06-2011, 10:00 AM
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I have been ticked off at PNP lately.
There have been a couple of times recently that cars listed online
were not there when I showed up! Fortunately, I work only
two miles from a PNP and can hop over there easily. Still, it's
hassle and someone isn't doing their job right. This is at the
Rancho Cordova, CA PNP.

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Old 01-06-2011, 11:49 AM
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86 230E 5-spd manual. I pulled the shifter and shift rods.
there is a plate on the lower left front, rivited on. "Original Mercedes Benz Tauschaggregat" with numbers " 126 260 1004 and 276848".

I haven`t seen this on a gear box before. would this be a replaced box from MB? maybe a new one under warranty? also the bell housing looked different. probably wouldn`t fit one of the Diesels, 60x variety.
the FW would most likely be different also.
Sounds like a good find. It's a MB factory rebuilt tranny. You can try calling the MB Classics Center, and see if they can provide any warranty/history info on it. They can usually tell you when it was shipped over and installed. IIRC, that work is only done via MB dealers, so there is a good record history for factory rebuilt components.
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Old 01-06-2011, 12:45 PM
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86 230E 5-spd manual. I pulled the shifter and shift rods.
there is a plate on the lower left front, rivited on. "Original Mercedes Benz Tauschaggregat" with numbers " 126 260 1004 and 276848".

I haven`t seen this on a gear box before. would this be a replaced box from MB? maybe a new one under warranty? also the bell housing looked different. probably wouldn`t fit one of the Diesels, 60x variety.
the FW would most likely be different also....
Hey Charlie, Nice find.

Is that 230E of w124 variety or of w123?

If w124, does the trans look like this?



It appears the w124 230E came with 717.412 trans part number 124 260 0301.

But looking at a part number closest to 126 260 1004, I found 126 260 1101 which is 717.431.


It might be worth it to snag if you have the will, means and storage!


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Old 01-06-2011, 12:45 PM
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Thanks for the info.
I did notice it was missing 2 of the shifter bushings on the shifter end. spedo showed 248808K, this could have been changed early on. so probably has a lot of miles on it to have the bushings not there.

I need to go back to PNP, and get the Vin# before giving the Classic center a call.

Charlie
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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works
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Old 01-06-2011, 12:54 PM
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I can`t say for sure if it looked like the picture or not, had a good coating of gunk .
the plate was rivited to the left of the "5" just below that tab.

Well I could pull the trans and store it, do have room for one more. I don`t want money tied up in a trans I can`t use just to have sitting around. Do you need/want it? i will pull it for you.

Looks like we posted, same time.

Charlie
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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works
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Old 01-06-2011, 01:00 PM
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I hear you Charlie. Not sure if I would want it also. Always tempting... would be fun to do a dropnosky on it. But I do like my automatics. 5 speed auto overdrive would have priority between the two.

It would be interesting to see what are the gear ratios if you get some information on it.



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Old 01-06-2011, 01:17 PM
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I was going to go to SJ today and check out the 2 PNP. The plastic end broke off my key for the 240. we just bought a tumbler and 2 keys from the dealer about last April. so wife mentioned we go to Monterey and talk to the parts guy.

Then I`ll swing by the ML PNP and get the Vin#.

I already have the 2 5-spds for the Dropnosky slice n dice if I ever get around to it. 5 with OD for the 240 and the 5 out of the 2.3 16V with direct in 5th for the 85. Just need to DO IT.
I go back and read that thread every once in a while to keep the "Dream alive".

This is the thread for anyone interested in the Dropnosky Slice N Dice.
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/how-adapt-w201-speed-om616-om617-applications-t-965.html

Yeah I really hate to see a good transmission go by bye to the crusher.

Just need to win the lottery

Charlie
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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works
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Old 01-06-2011, 03:05 PM
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It was in the Dorr, MI LKQ yard pretty much unmolested New Year's Day when I was passing through. Light-ivory with palomino tex IIRC.
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Old 01-06-2011, 08:34 PM
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I stopped by the ML yard and got the VIN# off the car.

(86 230E 5-spd manual. I pulled the shifter and shift rods.
there is a plate on the lower left front, rivited on. "Original Mercedes Benz Tauschaggregat" with numbers " 126 260 1004 and 276848".)


WDBEA30068A195385

Then went to the Dealer to get a new key or??? well there is a new plastic piece for the key, so got that. $4.65. thought they would have just replaced it since I bought 2 keys and tumbler a few months back, Oh Well.

I gave the parts guy the VIN#, but seeing the car had the 230 engine, knew it was a EURO model. that engine was not sold over here. so, no go with the ID.

HMMM, maybe ARMY could run it since he lives over there across the pond.

The # 126 260 1004, the 260 told him it is a Manual. If the # is a 270, then an Automatic.

Charlie
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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works
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Old 01-06-2011, 11:21 PM
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Hey Charlie, if you ever do the slice 'n dice transmission let me know, I really really really really want a 5 speed now!!!!! group build

I hit the PNP in Sac last weekend, they have the late model all aluminum 4 speed in a 240d, I wanted to pull it but there is a large puddle under the car I went for the shifter out of a euro 123 (like a 250 or something, tinny tinny carbed gas engine) they had there with the old iron box like i have in my car, but someone had taken the shifter. I have every thing I need to convert a 123 300d to manual other then the shifter. I wanted to get the shifter so i could have a kit then give it to my friend for his 300d, but now I'm still looking for the shifter.

I did pull the reflectors for 126 euros off a car that was in a front end accent. the lights them selfs, the plastic parts, lenses, pretty much every thing was trashed, so i pulled the reflectors and the vacuum pods. if anyone needs them I just pulled them so they wouldn't go to the dump.
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Old 01-07-2011, 12:18 AM
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I have a 240D 4-spd shifter if interested. need the shift rods also?

This will give me an exscuse to drive to Sacramento to see your new SD, well it is sort of new . HMMM, and In & Out Burger sounds good too.

Just put on your wet suit and dive in . I was amazed at how dry the Moss Landing yard is. good drainage I guess.

I really want to do the 5 spd project. maybe I can start it this spring after the rains. Hope this summer is better than last one. foggy cold most every day, then 2 wks of nice weather, no Fall went right into winter.

I have the Haynes 190E manual, has a good exploded view of the 5 spd trans. how to R&R it. much better than the one for the 123.

Charlie
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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works
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Old 01-07-2011, 12:50 AM
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WDBEA30068A195385
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Charlie
Hey Charlie, I think that vin - WDBEA30 - suggests it is a 300E... But I could be wrong.

Is the car happen to be Black metallic?



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Old 01-07-2011, 01:59 AM
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Could be a 300E, but sure it was a 230E. build date of 2/85 W124.
yes, it is a black one, not sure of metallic. black interior.

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works
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Old 01-07-2011, 02:18 AM
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Could be a 300E, but sure it was a 230E. build date of 2/85 W124.
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If it is a 300E, I find it should have a 717.430 transmission with gear ratios of..

3.68, 2.18, 1.38, 1.00, .80, R4.22




EDIT: The 300E 717.430 part number is 126 260 1001, a few digits off from the 126 260 1004 number you got.



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