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Old 03-26-2011, 06:52 PM
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turbo drain tube install 2 minutes, no tools

for the purists I will start with the disclaimer, this is not the recommended way from the FSM

I fought this tube for 45 minutes the FSM method, using a plastic pipe cap and a hammer from the top no joy. I put the tube in without the big seal and it had to go all the way down to allow the top tube to be installed. I looked at this and saw that this makes the tube go all the way through the big seal. SO...

1. the oring makes the seal at the bottom in a bore similar to the way all the other tube seals are done on the top of the turbo drain and the air cleaner drain
2. using the FSM method you have to force the tube all the way through the big seal from the top, which is nearly impossible. it also peels off the oring while its trying to go in

Heres the easy way.

1. put the big seal on the lower tube, you can push it through the bottom pretty easy, i put oil on it to help but it was not too hard.
2. put the orings on the lower tube.
3, push the lower tube into the upper pan hole, you will feel it "snap" in and hit bottom.
4. put on the top tube by bending the lower tube slightly to the side
5, snap the lower seal into the upper pan hole.
6. snug the 2 upper tube bolts after putting in the gasket
7. pull the lower tube up as far as it will go in the upper tube.
8. tighten the 2 nuts.

viola. I did this with one hand in less than 2 minutes. I took it apart and redid it 3 times to make the video linked below. works like a charm.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MyCmAlwEU0

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Old 03-26-2011, 11:56 PM
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that's excellent!...you don't happen to know the sizes for those o-rings do you? For a more complete quick reference.
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Old 03-27-2011, 12:11 AM
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Looks about right, but is far harder doing it on your back with the engine in the car.

Still, nice video!
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Old 03-27-2011, 11:39 AM
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heh, the title of your video SURE links a lot of al-jazera stuff!
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Old 03-27-2011, 12:03 PM
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Yeah I noticed that too...
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Old 03-27-2011, 12:13 PM
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LutzTD, that is excellent and many people will thank you, even if they do not do so here on the Forum.
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Old 03-27-2011, 12:21 PM
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I put it up to the WIKI submittal!
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wow, you sure are breathing hard in this video! how many lungs do you have?! nice video, though... thanks!
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Old 03-27-2011, 04:33 PM
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heh, the title of your video SURE links a lot of al-jazera stuff!
No doubt, nice video, but now everyone who is a member of this site is on the terrorist watch list!
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Old 03-27-2011, 05:09 PM
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Yes, this is the correct method but just watch, the next post on the subject will tell us to remove the pan and bash the hell out of the parts.
There is even a highly acclaimed right up in the DIY links saying to remove the pan to do this simple job. It will take thirty minutes do this job with the engine in the car on a 300SD and an hour and a half on 300D.
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Old 03-27-2011, 05:18 PM
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wow, you sure are breathing hard in this video! how many lungs do you have?! nice video, though... thanks!

too funny . I never played it with the sound. I was holding my phone close to my face so I could see the screen and I was at an awkward angle close to the ground, and Im not 20 years old. I did this operation several times so I was sure it would work before I recorded it and even so I dropped the top tube.
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Old 03-27-2011, 06:31 PM
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I put it up to the WIKI submittal!
aaaand it's in the WIKI now!

Thanks for the work!

http://www.peachparts.com/Wikka/OM617TurboDrainTube2
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1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

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Old 03-27-2011, 09:51 PM
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So, in order to remove the tube to replace the seal, did you just yank it out from the upper pan? I thought that the point of taking the lower pan off was to tap the tube out from below with a socket. Isn't there a check valve at the bottom of the tube that you have to avoid damaging? I've wanted to address this leak for a while. If it's this easy, I'll do it next month. Thanks
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LutzTD,
Thanks for the DIY. Please report back in a week or two and
let us know if it doesn't leak. I've had all the parts for some time
now but have put it off because of reading about too many people
who've done the repair and then still had a leak.

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Old 03-28-2011, 08:21 AM
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So, in order to remove the tube to replace the seal, did you just yank it out from the upper pan? I thought that the point of taking the lower pan off was to tap the tube out from below with a socket. Isn't there a check valve at the bottom of the tube that you have to avoid damaging? I've wanted to address this leak for a while. If it's this easy, I'll do it next month. Thanks
check valve is in the aircleaner drain just behind the turbo drain, there are no components to damage in the turbo drain hole

to remove it, push the lower tube all the way down, then you can remove the upper tube. Then just peel out the lower seal and you can pull the tube by hand. No hammer required. I did this several times when I was making the video. Granted my seal was new and still soft. I also noticed the MB factory seal rubber material was much softer than the after market one I bought, that may also be a contributing factor.

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