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Old 05-31-2011, 06:16 PM
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Best Price for 123/126 Horsehair Pads?

Anyone know??? Thanks!

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Old 06-01-2011, 12:59 AM
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Check here with GAHH.

http://www.gahh.com/seatcoverskits.php

there is also World Uhpolstery


http://www.worlduph.com/hubpageMERCEDES.htm


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Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

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Old 06-01-2011, 12:41 PM
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Thanks Charlie, I thought that someone mentioned that the pads were 85.00 with Performance Products -don't know why these pads are so expensive!
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Old 06-02-2011, 12:59 AM
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Thanks Charlie, I thought that someone mentioned that the pads were 85.00 with Performance Products -don't know why these pads are so expensive!
Ever tried holding a horse while pulling out his tail ?
The other question is why they are so expensive given they are not the best material for seat replacement ( unless you are restoring and not sitting )....
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Old 06-02-2011, 02:01 AM
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The front seat cushions are a foam pad on my 80 240D and the 85 300D. I just had them all apart rebuilding and replacing them.

The seat backs are the horse hair pads. the one`s in my 80 240 were like burnt toast, all crumbly.
I found an almost perfect pass seat out of an 83 240D. used it for the drivers side, after swaping the seat tracks. added some 1/2 in dense foam to the cender of the seat cushion. the 83 seat had coil springs in the front corners. I added a piece of pool noodle inside the coil, then cut it off a inch or so higher than the coil to stiffin it up. seems to work ok.
with this new seat, I can see over the steering wheel now instead of through it. .

I need to look in the sites I posted to see if they have a pad for the rear seat back rest. the 240 is mostly MB Tex and seat frame. the pad has sort of crumbled away.

note: World Uhpolstery shows a rear seat back rest as well as for the other seats. just have to call for a quote.

GAHH only shows pads for the front seats. they are pricy little buggers arent they?

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works

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Old 06-02-2011, 11:06 AM
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Prices of new pads, springs (they break elsewhere if repaired), & new cover have put me on a search for substitute seats. Newer models have more supportive design. Tracks can be swapped perhaps with fabrication. Site posts claim that most adjustments can be restored with effort. Take measurements of your seats & car then take a trip to the yard.
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Old 06-02-2011, 12:43 PM
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I have several cars to do and thought I would do one with HH pads and another with foeam, etc and compare the fit and feel. The horsehair product is both crap and expensive crap to boot! None the less, I hope to do several variations and post the results -
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Tests are almost always good.
I hope you include in the foam portion of the test a layer approach with more than one density of foam.... like most furniture is constructed these days...
A single density layer may still be better than what you are changing from... but with a little research and testing you may be able to produce the definitive Seat Redo thread...
My 240 seat really needs help.... please hurry...
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Old 06-02-2011, 03:04 PM
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The seat spring box from a W126, will fit into a W123. from what I have read in various threads, the spring box is the same.

Now with the w126, there is the generation one, from 81 to 85, and generation two, from 86 to 91.

Iam not sure is there was a change in the seats. I know there was change to larger front rotors, and the rear suspention was changed.

The W123 seat tracks should just swap over to the W126 seat.

If you start adding too much foam to the seat, there "could" be a problem with the MB Tex getting the seat to compress to fit it under the edge of the seat in the groove.

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works
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Old 06-02-2011, 04:23 PM
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...If you start adding too much foam to the seat, there "could" be a problem with the MB Tex getting the seat to compress to fit it under the edge of the seat in the groove.....Charlie
Place that seat upside down and clamp it to a table.. then pull the outside to meet with the support wire or hog rings, etc.....
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Old 06-02-2011, 05:14 PM
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There is a guy in the uk with a custom 560E w123, which he installed Gen II w126 power interior into. Well out of a SWB w126, so no power rear seat back...
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Aren't the "horsehair" pads actually rubberized coconut husks?
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This might also be something which could be used..

Kapok

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceiba_pentandra

"The fibre is light, very buoyant, resilient and resistant to water. The process of harvesting and separating the fibre is labour-intensive and manual. It is difficult to spin but is used as an alternative to down as filling in mattresses, pillows, upholstery, zafus, and stuffed toys such as teddy bears, and for insulation. It was previously much used in life jackets and similar devices until synthetic materials largely replaced the fibre."
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Ever tried holding a horse while pulling out his tail ?
The other question is why they are so expensive given they are not the best material for seat replacement ( unless you are restoring and not sitting )....
Just making a mental note;
If I see any shady people chasing horses with a pair of shears, they are steeling its tail to fix their seat!!

I always thought those pads were made from coconut husk.
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Old 06-05-2011, 03:10 PM
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yea, it mystifies me that such crappy low tech industrial by product waste can be so expensive and I refuse to believe that with the right approach and technique, we cannot improve upon the original technology/fit/comfort here -the quote I received the other day for HHpads was ridiculous! I do know that broken seat springs are very common and just one broken spring can make a huge difference -cannot wait to pull my seats apart and do it right!

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