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poor-man's compression test
Here is a good poor-man's compression test, based on cranking the engine without glowing the plugs.
Make sure: * the engine is COLD = not run in 24 hours. * The valves are adjusted correctly. * Ambient temperature 50° Fahrenheit or higher. #1. Disconnect the glow plug relay. #2. If it fires up immediately (within 60 seconds) with zero glow then it's got decent compression. Last edited by whunter; 06-05-2011 at 04:56 PM. |
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Injection timing plays a large role in the engines ability to start with no GP's. So this is not always a true indication of engine health if the injection timing is unknown.
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And temperature....at 20* the car should get an award for starting with no glow :-)
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Or has a little pick me up in the fuel?
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Not to mention the condition of the starter, and or battery.
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Sounds like a good way to kill the battery!
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or cook the starter motor. |
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Interesting thought: If you measured the amperage draw vs. time for the starter, it might be possible to distinguish a cylinder with lower compression than the rest due to the lower current drawn on its compression stroke. There'd be no way to convert this accurately into real numbers, but it ought to work as a relative indication of cylinder balance.
I know when I've had a spark plug removed on one cylinder of a gas engine (so 0 compression on that hole) and turned it over, the variation in cranking speed was pretty obvious.
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Not if it starts instantly.
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Quote:
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Mercedes Sprinters can measure compression with a scan tool from what I've read. But 70's VW??? Can you name the model and years where such is possible? What about VW TDI's I have not heard they have this capability.
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The cars just had a bunch of extra wires going back to a test plug under the hood. It was only available for a couple of years. -J
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There was a crank position sensor and a *lot* of extra wiring in the wiring harness, all terminating in a big plug. It must have cost them a lot to implement, and from what I hear it never worked all that well. A lot of current owners cut that stuff out to clean up the engine compartment wiring.
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