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Old 08-06-2011, 11:22 PM
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starter gremlin

Just a little useful (?) information.

Had the starter on my jeep (Bosch) go out.
It is in a similar location to a 617 turbo.

Total PITA to remove. The heat shields are as sharp as a razor.

Turned out that the nut on the bolt on the solenoid that has the wire that goes into the starter had been loose for some time. It had been arcing & so the corrosion had eventually stopped the connection.

I used a new nut & spring washer as well as a clean up with the dremil.

I have never had this problem before on a starter. I have had the main lead come loose on starters before.
Its all back together now & working like a charm.

After this I went & checked every starter here. About 1/2 of them had the equivalent nut a bit loose. It looks like the continual heat cycles over time making the copper wire squash may cause the nut to become loose.

If you are doing anything in that area of your car, its worth just checking that its tight.
Its not a nice feeling when you are miles from home, turn the key & have the starter hesitate & die.

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Old 08-07-2011, 05:19 AM
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Take a tip from someone who lives in the wet - petroleum jelly on all earth / electrical connectors like that saves a lot of hassle too (once you've tightened them up of course)

Also I must say it is nice to see layback40 actually starting a technical thread for once.

A momentous occasion!
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Old 08-07-2011, 08:46 AM
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Take a tip from someone who lives in the wet - petroleum jelly on all earth / electrical connectors like that saves a lot of hassle too (once you've tightened them up of course)

Also I must say it is nice to see layback40 actually starting a technical thread for once.

A momentous occasion!
We use a spray on product on terminals etc. It puts a tar like coating on the terminal/connection. Petroleum jelly tends to melt off in the heat & attracts dust & so moisture.

I have started technical type threads before, I just prefer to add on to an existing thread rather than start a new one. There are far too many good threads that have been forgotten & new ones about the same topic started. The tractor fuel use thread is an example of this.
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1984 300D 500k miles
1987 250td 160k miles English import
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Old 08-07-2011, 10:49 AM
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They have the spray here too - I did buy a tin the other day. 'Cost the same as a small house in Peru (so I'm told)
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Old 08-07-2011, 10:08 PM
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They have the spray here too - I did buy a tin the other day. 'Cost the same as a small house in Peru (so I'm told)
Probably was a small house in Peru in a previous life.

I think the last can we got was about $A 8.00 for a small aerosol can. should last you a life time. You can get an environmentally friendly pump spray version that is based lanolin. It just doesnt have the kick of the green house gas powered version.
When you spray it on it sort of wets everything & then the carrier solvent boils off.
Dont get it on your hands, its a #### to get off. Sticks like #### to a blanket !!!!

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1984 300D 500k miles
1987 250td 160k miles English import
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1968 Ford F750 truck. 6-354 diesel conversion.
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