I got a customers with a.85 300 D wagon
and we want do ot away the hyd. Susp.
Will reg. 123 gas.shocks work on it ? Without modifying the top shock mount

Thanks

Shocks aside, you'll need some beefier springs.

Sixto
87 300D

So regular.300.non.wagon shocks.will bolt.right up?
Spring spacers...?work.

I own a wagon and have read the discussions on this, which we have had already.

Basically it's like this: There are some springs that will work but they aren't made for a wagon so while they will keep the car level, the car won't have any load capacity anymore. For example, one member here says w116 rear springs will work.

You will need good quality shocks, such as Bilstein HDs. The wagon is a lot heavier than a sedan to start with.

What is the problem with the SLS? Once you are finished doing a conversion, you will probably have paid enough to fix the problem with the OEM.

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X2 Stock springs are too weak without the SLS. you need to replace those too.
You may have to make a plate for the top of the standard 300D shock. its certainly been done though with regular shocks and replacement springs, so you should be able to make it happen when you get in there.

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Somebody around here sells a conversion kit, but unless the hydraulic shocks are shot (a rare occurrence), it usually doesn't cost too much to get the original system back to snuff. These are great suspensions.

The pumps last forever, the lines can be replaced, the accumulators are about $240, and the valve can be rebuilt for $15 in parts.

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Lady needs levleing valve.both lower ball joints and the plus the struts the.side.to side.play. Has.new.pressure.res.and pump reseal about a year ago she.dont dont any heavy loads btw.she.wanfs cheap fix.add all that up plis labor yes thats.over 3grand easy in parts Alone.

...although I guess the chance of finding this is slim in the US of A...

Not all station wagons / estates were fitted with SLS here.

Have a look on EverythingBenz - Mercedes-Benz Forum and Web Search Using Google for some pictures (unfortunately the part numbers don't show for the rear suspension)



This is for a W123.280 chassis

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Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!

A valve rebuild, lower ball joints and struts are not $3000, even with labor it should hit 3k.

O-ring kit for the valve is $10 from me.
Two lower ball joints are $50 from fastlane.
Two rear struts are $750 from fastlane.

A solid weekend of wrenching would kill all those.

Here's the DIY for rebuilding the SLS Valve - http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/271457-w123-self-leveling-system-o-ring-replacement-diy.html

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Not front ball joints she needs the valve someone took it apart before sure parts are missing its not leaking
its here for glow plugs and steering lock right now just dropped off.
I think shed be happy with some coil spr.spacers lol

What lower ball joints are you talking about then?

Not to be rude, but it's really hard to understand your posts. Bad grammer and spelling, and periods all over the place make it difficult to understand what your asking or saying.

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W124 levelling valve for my '89 TD lists at about $450 new over here, must be available used.

There aren't any ball-joints at the rear...?

Rear struts are expensive new but available used, rarely fail. Are they both leaking? They use a different bottom mounting compared to a normal shock absorber and would need serious modding to fit. Better off replacing with used parts at the rear, rather than bodging, plus you'd be guessing at the ride height and suspension set-up....

cheers

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... there are no ball joints in the rear suspension...

if the valve is taken apart, and broken, it can be fixed, if it's missing altogether, replacements are easy to come by.
if you need an ENTIRE SLS suspension, I've got two wagons I'm parting out.

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Replacing the SLS is a bad idea. Fixing, even with used parts, is a far better idea.

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Look here at the lower strut there is a ball joint. I cant make out the number on my cell.
Number 38?