Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-07-2011, 10:58 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Clarksburg MD
Posts: 174
Value of 82 300d EUro 5 spd

So I like my 300 so much I'm looking at another. How much do you think a clean low mile 82 300d Euro is worth.

A few things don't add up. Owner is saying 160k miles. If it's a euro it would be Kilometers. Would the speedo have been replaced with a US when it was brought over or did they do multi speck speedos for euro delivery cars that had KPH and MPH?

I hope to look at this car this weekend so I'll get an idea of what the body looks like.

Car is blue on blue. (Blue almost looks green) It does not seem like a very popular color.

Thanks in advance

__________________
Mad_Matt's Current Stable:
Oil Burners:
09 Jetta TDI The highway queen @ 105k
83 300D. Sold
Gassers:
16 A4 sport line
10 Passat
83 Recaro Trans AM WS6 Bone Stock Survivor
11 Harley Ultra
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-07-2011, 11:13 AM
Posting since Jan 2000
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 7,166
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad_Matt View Post
So I like my 300 so much I'm looking at another. How much do you think a clean low mile 82 300d Euro is worth.

A few things don't add up. Owner is saying 160k miles. If it's a euro it would be Kilometers. Would the speedo have been replaced with a US when it was brought over or did they do multi speck speedos for euro delivery cars that had KPH and MPH?

I hope to look at this car this weekend so I'll get an idea of what the body looks like.

Car is blue on blue. (Blue almost looks green) It does not seem like a very popular color.

Thanks in advance
I have two Euro 240D's, both with MPH speedometers that were assumedly installed as part of grey market conversion.
__________________
2001 SLK 320 six speed manual
2014 Porsche Cayenne six speed manual

Annoy a Liberal, Read the Constitution
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-07-2011, 11:31 AM
Stevo's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: NW WA
Posts: 6,299
X2 on the spedo, Price depends on how much you want a Euro 5 speed. I love mine.
__________________


1985 Euro 240D 5 spd 140K
1979 240D 5 spd, 40K on engine rebuild
1994 Dodge/Cummins, 5 spd, 121K
1964 Allice Chalmers D15 tractor
2014 Kubota L3800 tractor
1964 VW bug

"Lifes too short to drive a boring car"
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-07-2011, 11:41 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Clarksburg MD
Posts: 174
Thanks for the info. So I'm betting mileage is more since the car was used in Europe before it came over. The asking price is 4200. I
ll start with 3200 and move up once I see the car.
__________________
Mad_Matt's Current Stable:
Oil Burners:
09 Jetta TDI The highway queen @ 105k
83 300D. Sold
Gassers:
16 A4 sport line
10 Passat
83 Recaro Trans AM WS6 Bone Stock Survivor
11 Harley Ultra
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-07-2011, 12:05 PM
vstech's Avatar
DD MOD, HVAC,MCP,Mac,GMAC
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Mount Holly, NC
Posts: 26,841
with used cara, I start with my minimum of 500, then examine the car for defects. if none are found, I bump the price accordingly.
starting with 3200 is risky. I'd not offer anything until I looked the car over for sure.
I do not believe the 82 was offered with a true 5 forward gears transmission. verify he's not counting Reverse as a 5th gear...
__________________
John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-07-2011, 12:24 PM
Stevo's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: NW WA
Posts: 6,299
Quote:
Originally Posted by vstech View Post
with used cara, I start with my minimum of 500, then examine the car for defects. if none are found, I bump the price accordingly.
starting with 3200 is risky. I'd not offer anything until I looked the car over for sure.
I do not believe the 82 was offered with a true 5 forward gears transmission. verify he's not counting Reverse as a 5th gear...
I had a Euro 82 240D, 5 spd a while back, so I would expect they used the same tranny in a 300D, but who knows
__________________


1985 Euro 240D 5 spd 140K
1979 240D 5 spd, 40K on engine rebuild
1994 Dodge/Cummins, 5 spd, 121K
1964 Allice Chalmers D15 tractor
2014 Kubota L3800 tractor
1964 VW bug

"Lifes too short to drive a boring car"
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-07-2011, 12:25 PM
ngarover's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Northern Georgia
Posts: 1,964
I would buy it just for the 5 speed if it had one. It's what I would like to swap into my cd.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-07-2011, 12:50 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada.
Posts: 6,510
Finding out what year it was brought into the country might give you some indication or suspicion of how many kilometers it may have had on it before the speedometer/odometer was changed out. There may also be a paper trail with the car but unlikely.

During the refit for north american markets usually a brand new speedometer head is installed. Occassionaly a used one might be used. Either way the current odometer reading on that car is not valid.

This should be mentioned to the seller when negotiating the price as well. There is not another brand of car in the world that has more apparent odometer discrepancies one way or another.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-07-2011, 12:57 PM
piccolovic's Avatar
OLD LADY
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: FL
Posts: 779
One way to verify mileage is to look at the history of maintenance records. If the corresponding mileage info that is written on each invoice is chronologically in order from first sold to present, then there's an excellent chance that the mileage is correct. That is how I confirmed the 173K on my '83 300D when I bought it. The previous mechanic was meticulous at recording the mileage at the time of work, and he recorded the change of odometer and the mileage difference on the face of the odometers at the time of the replacement. And there's never anything wrong with trying to negotiate the price down . . . LOL. But in 2005 I paid $2400 for my '83, which had a newly rebuilt tranny (7K miles), a rebuilt front end, however, needed paint, and almost every sensor and relay replaced!!!! Also, I never bought a car without taking it (or having it taken to) to a shop of MY choice, to do a complete inspection, detailing on the invoice everything that was found. This saved me from buying a car that was leaking from EVERY component that the seller tried to mask by washing the car/undercarriage when I came to look at it. It was certainly worth the $50 I was charged . . . saved me thousands of dolars in repairs had I bought the car.
__________________
1983 300D, the "Avocado"
1976 240D, 4-spd the "Pumpkin", SOLD to Pierre
1984 190D, 2.2L, 5-spd, my intro to MBZ diesels, crashed into in 2002
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-07-2011, 01:15 PM
t walgamuth's Avatar
dieselarchitect
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Lafayette Indiana
Posts: 38,626
I'm pretty sure the five speed was offered in Europe with any motor.
__________________
[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 12-07-2011, 01:24 PM
benhogan's Avatar
CPA/Greasemonkey
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Chapel Hill
Posts: 1,092
I say just buy it.

You can always sell it later on for about the same.
__________________
Ben
1987 190d 2.5Turbo
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12-07-2011, 01:46 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Clarksburg MD
Posts: 174
VSTech. So you are saying the car would be a 4 speed with R. When I see 5 spd I think 5 forward gears. I'll get clarification. So the Euro models did not get a 5 speed? I would normally just assume that since it was the 80 and most cars came with 5 speed gear boxes.
__________________
Mad_Matt's Current Stable:
Oil Burners:
09 Jetta TDI The highway queen @ 105k
83 300D. Sold
Gassers:
16 A4 sport line
10 Passat
83 Recaro Trans AM WS6 Bone Stock Survivor
11 Harley Ultra
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 12-07-2011, 03:09 PM
Posting since Jan 2000
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 7,166
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad_Matt View Post
Thanks for the info. So I'm betting mileage is more since the car was used in Europe before it came over. The asking price is 4200. I
ll start with 3200 and move up once I see the car.

That's a really high price, but that's a really rare car. Don't forget to go over it for rust. If you are starting with a solid rust free car that has not been seriously wrecked, you can fix most everything else.

To me, this would be a HIGHLY desirable car. Good luck.
__________________
2001 SLK 320 six speed manual
2014 Porsche Cayenne six speed manual

Annoy a Liberal, Read the Constitution
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 12-07-2011, 03:10 PM
Posting since Jan 2000
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 7,166
Quote:
Originally Posted by vstech View Post
with used cara, I start with my minimum of 500, then examine the car for defects. if none are found, I bump the price accordingly.
starting with 3200 is risky. I'd not offer anything until I looked the car over for sure.
I do not believe the 82 was offered with a true 5 forward gears transmission. verify he's not counting Reverse as a 5th gear...

No, I'm quite sure the 5 speed was available in Euro cars of the era.
__________________
2001 SLK 320 six speed manual
2014 Porsche Cayenne six speed manual

Annoy a Liberal, Read the Constitution
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 12-07-2011, 03:19 PM
Home appliance genius
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: cleveland
Posts: 1,160
Quote:
Originally Posted by benhogan View Post
I say just buy it.

You can always sell it later on for about the same.

Thats not true. Not even close. I have a 300e with that "super rare 5 speed".

Best offer I got on the trans was about $800 bucks. The whole car $1500.

I paid about $3500 or so for that one. (I tried to put it out of my memory but its close)

__________________
Eugene

10 E63 AMG
93 300te 4matic
07 BMW X3
14 Ford F-150 Fx2
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:11 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page