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Old 01-17-2012, 10:10 PM
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Seat cover questions.

Hello guys i have a 1983 300d with black interior. I have asked here and found out that seats are hard to find. I wonder if anyone has used these seat covers? They are from ebay i messaged the seller and said they would work but i want to make sure. Thanks here is the link i would appreciate it.
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Old 01-17-2012, 10:59 PM
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I think with a buy it now of $44.95, you will get what you paid for. probably very low quality. these might be more of a slip cover.

You are right about black interiors being hard to find. I have it in my 85 300D. 15 yrs ago when we bought the car, the drivers seat was in bad shape. I asked around the various shops who did the best work on a MB. was recommended a place at the air port that did air plane interiors.

The guy did a great job, and was a bit pricy. but I think he bought the upholstery kit from one of several places that make the kits for the various MB models. then added his mark up and time.

There is World Upholstery, and another one, GAHH. do a Google on them.

Finding W123 seats in good shape is really dwindling down.

Charlie
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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

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Old 01-17-2012, 11:06 PM
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I have found seats but they are in california. I live in new mexico and it would be i think hard to ship them. Would ups ship items of this size? I know they arent really heavy. I know they dont like anything over 75lbs. Thanks guys i got the car for $800 and cant really see at this point to spend over the cost of the car for seat upholstry. I called an upholstry shop and they quoted like $400 to repair them. The thing is i have a 3yr old son and a 3 week old son and well they are gonna probably mess them up anyways being kids. They could break rocks if you let them get to them. Thats just how kids are and wanted to know if these covers would work until i get the money up to fix the seats right and make her look like new. Paint is also in the works. Thanks guys i understand you get what you pay for especially nowadays. Thanks Robert
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Old 01-18-2012, 12:03 AM
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I shipped,a w126 pass seat from Calif to Tenn. via Greyhound about 5 years ago. also the complete dash. those were a fun job to figure out how wrap/box them up.

$400 sound a bit pricy for a repair. If you remove the seat and then remove the covers, that will save on labor. exactly what is wrong with the seats? if ripped up, yeah then they need to be replaced. if the pletes are flattened out, then the cloth backing the MB Tex is sewn to, has deteriorated and. It could be sewn with a new cloth backing.

If the spring are broken, then the seat will sag. had this happen to the 85 later on after I had the new covers installed. think this was 10 yrs later. 2 springs broke on the out side edge.

I found a good passenger seat, and used the spring box/base on the drivers side. then just switch over the seat rails. the left side of the pass seat which doesn`t get much use, then becomes the out side for the Driver, and is like new.

The W126 seat base will also work. the 126 from 81 to I believe 83 has the pleted seats, then 84 they changed the seat cover style. maybe the early 126 pleted seat will work? might find one in black. I saw an 83 a few days ago in blue and nice shape.

There is also the Pool Noodles used to beef up the seats, do a search on Pool Noodle.

HMMMM...........Kids. I have Grand Kids now, but if they were riding with me, they would be in a Straight jacket and Duct taped.
Luck for them, they live a good distance away.

Charlie
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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works
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Old 01-18-2012, 12:24 AM
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Will the seller peel the upholstery off the frame for more tolerable shipping cost?

Have you considered vinyl dye? I imagine the easiest dye job is making any other color black.

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Old 01-18-2012, 02:17 AM
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Vinyl dye, isn`t that just the vinyl spray paint?

Here is a link to the World Uhpolstery site. this will tease you.

World Upholstery & Trim: Mercedes-Benz Seat Covers/Kits, Carpets, Panel/Interior Upholsteries and Convertible Tops

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works

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Old 01-18-2012, 02:48 AM
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The rear seat upper is worn by the heat and sun it is cracked and has holes. The passenger lower seat portion looks like the material shifted. I believe with some elbow grease I can fix it. The driver back has a tear in it by the bolster toward the door. The bucket seat nets have fallen off the backs. Is there a way to reattach them? I have a photobucket account bdblk12v it has some pictures of the interior. Thanks guys I feel the car is worth saving. I don't want to crush her or part her out.
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Old 01-18-2012, 11:33 AM
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The pass seat portion didn`t shift, as I mentioned in post #4....

"if the pletes are flattened out, then the cloth backing the MB Tex is sewn to, has deteriorated and. It could be sewn with a new cloth backing."

when we got the 80 240D, the seats were well used and in need if repair. I found a passenger seat in a 83 240 that looked like it hadn`t been used. I swapped it over to my drivers side. did have to swap in the drivers side seat tracks, and lubed them. also took the seat apart and added in a 1/2" piece of dence foam to the bottom. washed up the seat spring box from the 28yrs of use.
The pass seat was built from several seats I found in the PNP`s. the seat bottom MB Tex was good, but the pletes had flattened out. I dropped it off at a upholstrey shop, and after a month of the guy putting me off, I brought it home.

my Wife had some white cloth like sheets are made of. I got the bright idea of using Hot Glue to hold it together. ran a bead of glue down the center, glued the cloth. then lined up one of the strips, fit it tight and ran another bead of glue, and fit the cloth so the strip was tight. and worked my way across. starting in the middle, then do the right one, then the left one working back and forth until I got to the out side edges.

With it all put together, it doesn`t look too bad. A disclaimer here, you can burn your fingers, and I will not be held responsible for that .
also where I live it doesn`t get that hot, so in a hotter climate it might melt the glue with the car shut up on a 100deg day. I found out about this, when I used Hot Glue to glue back in one of my visor mirrors. worked good until a hot day I got back in the car, and the mirror was hanging by its wires.

If the top of your seat back is sun cooked and coming apart, nothing you can do to fix that. need a replacement. the padding used in the seat back is a Horse Hair stuff, and after 28+ yrs, it dries out and gets crumbly like burnt toast.

The seat backs nets are not that hart to fix. under the bottom of the back are 2 screws, remove them and the back will slide down. then as I remember the plastic "U" frame comes off and the net can be tightened up.

If you are creative and a DIY type guy, look for a sewing machine with a Walking foot, and I believe you can swe up the seat bottom your self. My wife`s maching for sewing basic stuff will not work, the vinal bunches up, and with the Walking foot it works both sides. start looking in CL etc for used machines. I found a Phaff, but needs some work. just need to find a couple parts.

what color is the interior?

I see a lot of the W201 bodies (190) in the yards with perfect interiors. I have always wondered if the front seat out of one of those would work in a 123 with maybe the seat track switch. maybe one of the big guys will come along that know`s if this will work. no way the 190 rear seat will work.

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works
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Old 01-18-2012, 11:45 AM
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Hmmmm . . . I never understood why original price for car has anything to do with how much one should spend on getting it to wear the owner wants it. For instance . . .guy who only spent $500 for original car, was a daily driver for him, and based on original price, didn't want to spend more than that on putting in running AC system that would cost more than the original $500, even though everything else about the car was great!!!!

Has anyone on the border tried to look at how much the upholstery shops in Mexico charge? I know that in Tijuana, there is an entire street dedicated to MBZ everything!!!! And most of them are very "reputable." Can get original paint jobs, leather interiors, etc. for reasonable prices.

As far as the seats, you might want to consider getting a set from a junkyard that match themselves, whether or not exact pattern as OEM, and put them in as a cheap alternative. At the Pick-ur-Part in Chula Vista, I was able to replace the complete interior (seats, carpet, door panels, etc.) for less than $200 with brand new upholstery. They also have folks who will disassemble for you and mail it out. How far are you from the Mexican Border? Are you overdue for a trip to San Diego anytime soon?

Or, you can cover the seat with thick carpet to prevent getting your butt scratched with broken springs, and hide with sheepskin cover!!!
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Old 01-18-2012, 04:06 PM
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The interior color in the car is black. The reason I don't want to spend a lot is I just had a baby and money is tight. One day I would pay to have the interior all repaired correctly. I'm a natural gas engine builder previous diesel mechanic. I could fix it up I just wondered if these covers would work for a short time repair. I would not venture into mexico especially jaurez. I want to come back to see y family. The things down there are not what they used to be. Its a whole other country now with border crossing and whatnot. Thanks everyone.
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Old 01-18-2012, 04:12 PM
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With that thought process, the original owners of my 80 240D, just gave it to us.
so with that in mind, I shouldn`t put any dollar amount into it. just guessing, I have at least $1800 in it for the last 23 months of ownership.

Hate to think wha we dumped into the 85 for the past 15 years.

Either make payments on a new car, or put money into an older one. there is no free ride.

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works
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Old 01-18-2012, 04:21 PM
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the e-bay seats will work for you, just hard to tell exactly what they are. the guy really doesn`t give much detail, you might have to put a little padding on the seats, and then slip these on.

which every way you go, put up some pictures of your new baby. er I man car.

I think a complete seat with manual tracks, is about $30, with the electric tracks, $45. I might come across a good set. keep my eye on the trail for one.

Charlie
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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works
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Old 01-18-2012, 04:46 PM
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Shipping isn't really that hard. Go to U-haul for a box large enough to put the seat into, and send it by "ground." It might equal what you're paying for the seat though. If they can take the back of the seat off and stack, use a smaller box, might save some money. Or in the meantime, use carpet and sheepskin cover til you can afford to have it re-upholstered the way you want.
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Old 01-18-2012, 08:53 PM
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I understand about putting money into it. I know the saying you have to pay to play. I want to get the mechanical aspect done first and save down the line to do the interior. I have looked for black seats to see how rare they are and found out that in fact they are rare. I dont see buying a new car. They are not that great. My brother purchased a 2012 vw jetta tdi 6speed manual and it is a nice car but too much plastic in it. I am young and just want to get it where i can drive it and if it takes time than thats what it will take. http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m521/bdblk12v/mer2.jpg
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Old 01-18-2012, 09:41 PM
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Thanks for the picture looks like a nice car. before you know it, a couple more will follow you home.

I have been through New Mexico a few times driving across HWY 40. some pretty scenery, the rock formations are incredable.

late one night we were headed west bound, and almost no traffic except for a few trucks. we pulled off the hwy and turned off the lights. there aren`t city lights for 100 mils in any direction, and dang was it ever dark. but w/o city lights, the view of the stars was the most incredable thing I ever saw. almost like 3-D looking up through the Milky Way.

Charlie

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works
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