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Old 01-25-2012, 05:07 PM
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Name that noise, w124, 1987 300d

Had my 300d for about a month now. I've taken her above 70 mph a few times on my commute without issue. The other day I decided to give her some juice, as I hit around 80 + and the car started making a banging noise from the front end. As I slowed below 40 it went away. Now that noise happens almost every time when I hit between 60-70 MPH. Other than the noise, car drive great.

Here is a video with sound. I have looked at the engine, suspension, etc but don't see anything too obvious.

w124 300d noise - YouTube

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Old 01-25-2012, 05:31 PM
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I have no real ideal at the moment what it is. Yet since it could be dangerous or very expensive if it lets go. I would pay more attention to it. It is far from a healthy type of noise to me.

First of all I would examine the flex disks very carefully. Not just superficially. Plus the centre bearing as well. As stupid as it perhaps sounds make sure all the wheel bolts are tight as well. Hard to get a grip on that noise from the video for me as I cannot remember ever having a noise like that.
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Old 01-25-2012, 05:44 PM
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I agree with barry that checking flex disks is a good starting point. And I would say figure that out ASAP, I wouldn't drive it like that. Can you tell roughly where the sound is coming from ... front, rear? It does sound a little bit (though it's really hard to tell) like my 240D did when the flex disk let go in the front ... it ripped to bits and basically the driveshaft was hanging on by what was left of the bolts ... in that case I was going slow in a car with not lots of power so nothing awful happened, but I don't want to know what would have happened if I had been going 60 mph. If it's coming from more rear direction, maybe it could be an axle?
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Old 01-25-2012, 05:58 PM
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The noise sounds like it is coming from the drivers front. It seems to change in pitch as the cars suspension is flexed.
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Old 01-25-2012, 08:22 PM
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You have pretty snow covered mountains surounding the area where you live.

Do you still have the belly pans under the car? maybe it is loose?

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Old 01-26-2012, 02:13 PM
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I'm also voting for a loose belly pan. Look for scrapes on it where it may have been hitting the pavement.

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Old 01-26-2012, 03:02 PM
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Did the early w124 diesels have belly pans? Because the gassers didn't get them until 90.
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Old 01-26-2012, 03:15 PM
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No steering wheel shake or body vibration with the noise?

87 300D and TD have belly pans.

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Old 01-26-2012, 04:16 PM
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I have today just replaced both of my front tires because one of them was 'out of round' or gone oval.

I had a front end thump / jumping up and down that started at 20mph and tailed off at 30mph but was still noticeable even at high speeds ,only a slight thump but nevertheless it drove me mad and a quick 2 minutes with the car in the air and a house brick as a gauge to determine tire distortion found around 1/4 rotation was about 1/16 of an inch less than the rest of the tire.

Yours sound similar but I cannot help thinking that the speed is somehow allowing the tire to reach and rub somewhere,a bit like how a top fuel dragster tire expands as its rotation speeds up.
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:16 PM
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Thanks for the advise. I had taken off the belly pan under the oil pan when I did an oil change a few weeks back. I couldn't get it back on so I just left it off. In the process I must have knocked lose the rear belly pan as that was the cause of the noise. Took it off and went for a test drive. Nothing but the beautiful pitter patter of the engine. Congrats to charmalu and Chris for nailing it!

Snow is very pretty on those hills right now. We could use a lot more.
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Old 01-27-2012, 01:04 AM
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Glad you got it solved! Always nice when it turns out to be something simple.
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Usually it's the simplest solution that's hardest to find I did this once- left off the front pan after an oil change as I had some other work to do under the car at a later date... then thump thump thump... the shield for the transmission will hold itself in place when stationary, but is held secure by the rear screws from the sump shield which pass through both. Always a pain in the arse to line up on my car too after an oil change.
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The back of the front one keeps the 2nd one from hanging down and turning into a thousand pieces. I wouldn't run the car with just the 2nd pan on it. If it were mine I would get them both back on the car. If not you can sell them as there is always someone looking for them on here.
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I have intentions of getting a new set of pans this summer. I would like to leave them off to track down a few leaks. This brings up another question. With all the salt the city uses around here on snowy days, do you think it is better to keep these off in the winter? I am thinking with them on - salt is harder to rinse off the undercarriage and maybe get trapped somewhere and cause corrosion.

Any thoughts on this?
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I have intentions of getting a new set of pans this summer. I would like to leave them off to track down a few leaks. This brings up another question. With all the salt the city uses around here on snowy days, do you think it is better to keep these off in the winter? I am thinking with them on - salt is harder to rinse off the undercarriage and maybe get trapped somewhere and cause corrosion.

Any thoughts on this?
I just moved back to the land of salt and I have mine on. I will pull them after snow season and give the car a good rinse from underneath.

If you do get new ones (around $600 still I believe) make sure you post the old one for sale here.

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