Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-18-2012, 05:36 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 7,515
Replacement boots for tie rod ends / center link?

Hi, I'm posting here because the diesel guys seem to be able to keep their cars going economically. ( kind of like the Porsche 914 guys )

97 SL 320 R129 ( W 124 based ) with the regular steering box / linkage and not rack / pinion. I need tie rod end and center link boots. Mercedes used to sell these but they are out of the system.

Tie rod boot 129-330-00-85
Center link ( drag link ) 129-330-01-85

There are universal American umbrella type boots to be had but these are more for joints that have grease fittings. I'll work up some dimensions as there has to be some other car that uses the same boot size.

As a side note, to make your boots last longer, put some silicone grease between the shaft / boot and on top of the boot. This will reduce friction and allow the shaft to smoothly rotate rather than bind.

Thanks

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-19-2012, 02:00 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Palmdale/Ventura, CA
Posts: 813
I started looking for boots separately that would be economical.

There is a company that sells them by dimension and not application or model
of vehicle.

So when you get your dimensions, do a general search for tie rod boots.
These come in silicone and in color.
__________________
80 300D 340K Owned 30 yrs
83 300SD 440K Owned 9 yrs - Daily Driver 150mi/day
02 Z71 Suburban 117,000
15 Toyota Prius 2600 miles
00 Harley Sportster 24k
09 Yamaha R6
03 Ninja 250
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-19-2012, 04:55 AM
JamesDean's Avatar
Electrical Engineer
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: NE Ohio
Posts: 5,034
XXXX still lists them but they may be no longer available.

You'd have to either try and order them or call/ask.
__________________
Cruise Control not working? Send me PM or email (jamesdean59@gmail.com). I might be able to help out.
Check here for compatibility, diagnostics, and availability!

(4/11/2020: Hi Everyone! I am still taking orders and replying to emails/PMs/etc, I appreciate your patience in these crazy times. Stay safe and healthy!)


82 300SD 145k
89 420SEL 210k
89 560SEL 118k
90 300SE 262k RIP 5/25/2010
90 560SEL 154k
91 300D 2.5 Turbo. 241k
93 190E 3.0 235k
93 300E 195k
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-19-2012, 01:44 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Out in the Boonies of Hot, Dry, Dusty, Windy Nevada
Posts: 9,634
This might be what you are looking for?

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-parts-reference-library/248279-0003300485-tie-rod-drag-link-boot-kit.html

this is for the w123 but might help. grease boot repair kit

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-parts-reference-library/216147-w123-front-steering-suspension-rebuild-list.html

116 586 05 33 upper control arm ball joint X2

116 586 04 33 lower control arm ball joint X2

Give Roy (Whunter) a call.

Charlie
__________________
there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-19-2012, 09:07 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 7,515
The 000 330 04 85 boot sounds promising, I'll have my local dealer check stock. ( I'd order from Peach Parts but shipping cross country adds $. In the past I have ordered from Pelican for Porsche 914 stuff since it is less widely available.)

I've got some dimensions. EDIT: OF MY EXISTING BOOTS NOT THE PART # ABOVE

With the tie rod boot installed, measuring the steel lock ring .906" top 1.390" bottom
With the boot removed measuring the taper shaft where the boot sits .630". The joint groove where the boot seats 1.133"

The drag ( center ) link boots measure .865 top , 1.055 bottom , .633 shaft , .808" groove.

The joints are OE to the car and are marked with the O in a triangle. That makes them Lemforder ( the O is really a owl ). The lower ball joints were TRW ( Used to be a big name in the US ), the replacements I got were Moog ( big name in the US ) but were really Lemforder.

Last edited by 97 SL320; 02-20-2012 at 08:03 PM. Reason: CLARIFICATION
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-20-2012, 01:39 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Shelton, CT
Posts: 345
Good info, need to replace a couple of boots that are almost split open...
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-20-2012, 08:05 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 7,515
To be clear, the dimensions I have are of my existing boots and not the 000 330 04 85.

The dealer is ordering 000 330 04 85 , I'll give it a test fit and report back.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-20-2012, 08:33 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Annapolis, MD
Posts: 171
Who says 914 guys are cheep? ...Do you have a cheep used motor to sell me

I've used the tie rod kit on my 123, works well and easily. Febi tie rods went bad in...maybe 9 months. The MB snap rings are TOUGH, I just reused the ones on the existing tie rods.
__________________
05 E320 CDI
99 SL500
02 530i

82 240D SOLD
83 240D Euro 4spd SOLD
86 300D Euro Auto SOLD
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-23-2012, 06:18 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 7,515
Got one of the 000 330 04 85 boots with a bit of a stretch or squeeze, it will work on the tie rods and center link. The hole for the stud is small , base fits the drag link a bit loose and will need a ring to draw it tight, base fits the tie rod base just fine. All joints will be run sans the upper ring since the rubber is a bit small, the bases on both will use the original rings.

They are black rubber, marked TRW 022-0002-914-009C

Steel lock ring OD ( off the joint ) .845" top , 1.184" bottom , no ring on boot OD .612" top , 1.120" bottom. Top ID ( no ring ) .412" , bottom .993"

I've ordered 5 more to change them all.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-26-2012, 01:10 PM
tobybul's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: West Michigan
Posts: 2,076
I believe Peachparts sells the tir rod boots. Phil or Roy can pin them down. Otherwise, I know the dealers sell them too. Not terribly expensive.

But for the inexpensive cost of tie rods why not just replace the whole thing.
__________________
the sooner you start... the sooner you'll get done If it ain't broke, don't fix it.. Its always simpler to tell the truth...
2007 Honda Accord EX
2007 Honda Accord SE V6
96 C220
97 Explorer - Found Another Home
2000 Honda Accord V6 - Found Another Home
85 300D - Found Another Home
84 300D - Found Another Home
80 300TD - Found Another Home
Previous cars:
96 Caravan
87 Camry
84 Cressida
82 Vanagon
80 Fiesta
78 Nova
Ford Cortina
Opel Kadet
68 Kombi
Contessa
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 02-26-2012, 01:24 PM
JamesDean's Avatar
Electrical Engineer
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: NE Ohio
Posts: 5,034
I think the sl tie rids for op's car are like 80$/each or so.. Boots are cheap compared to that lol.

Sent from my mwp6985 using Board Express
__________________
Cruise Control not working? Send me PM or email (jamesdean59@gmail.com). I might be able to help out.
Check here for compatibility, diagnostics, and availability!

(4/11/2020: Hi Everyone! I am still taking orders and replying to emails/PMs/etc, I appreciate your patience in these crazy times. Stay safe and healthy!)


82 300SD 145k
89 420SEL 210k
89 560SEL 118k
90 300SE 262k RIP 5/25/2010
90 560SEL 154k
91 300D 2.5 Turbo. 241k
93 190E 3.0 235k
93 300E 195k
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 02-26-2012, 05:02 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Middle TN
Posts: 4,042
Call suspension.com they sell energy suspension parts & may have some. I used to deal with them on Datsun Z parts. They keep (at least used to keep) some of all ES part numbers in stock. (Check with Phil first.)

__________________
85SD 240K & stopped counting painted, putting bac together. 84SD 180,000. Probably up for sale in the fall 2020 still have it. 85TD beginning to repair to DD status. Waiting on shop to do minor but more than I can do rust.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:19 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2018 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page