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Old 03-18-2012, 03:33 PM
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linkage gremlin 300sd

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as I remember from some old whunter's posts linkage must be
free for movement,and stop lever has to move freely also...
mine would not budge,pls see vid:

linkage.mp4 - YouTube

smells like (yet another) trouble?


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Old 03-18-2012, 05:17 PM
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Check the linkage going to the IP from the shut off lever.

Your Bowden cable seems to be okay, just missing the protective cover.

Does it drive okay?
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Old 03-19-2012, 06:04 AM
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linkage to IP when moved by hand does go down (not easily anyways...)
when pushed by stop lever it would not budge at all

car drives more or less fine,but sometimes I have problem with gas pedal response.. it does have some kind of lag .... weird...

it confuses me as I watch some other guy video where he can easily
move down stop lever button.....


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Old 03-19-2012, 02:21 PM
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Not your vehicle but in the W123 Manual the Linkages have specific lengths listed. Measuered from the Center of the Linkage Balls or Linkage Holes.

Another issue is that inside of the Idle Adjustment Screw is a Spring and Plunger that allows the Throttle Lever to go into the Shutoff Positon; I read x2 where that Plunger or spring were Rusted up inside and either would not move or had limitied movement.
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Old 03-19-2012, 02:58 PM
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You have a big problem with the linkages.

Four questions:

1. Has the motor ever been replaced on this car?

2. Is your idle speed very slow right now?

3. When you press down on the accelerator, do you feel like the linkage is "pushing back" at first, before it moves?

4. If you look on the inside of the injection pump (the side nearest the motor itself), do you see the idle adjustment screw and locknut assembly? I cannot see clearly enough in the video to make out if it is still there.

Right now your stop lever appears to be resting against the valve cover.
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Old 03-19-2012, 04:17 PM
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I just made this video, maybe it'll help.
MB 1982 SD go linkage - YouTube
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Old 03-20-2012, 04:35 AM
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I just made this video, maybe it'll help.
MB 1982 SD go linkage - YouTube
thank you for video mate!

in basics,we have same setup,and mine acts like yours
in video you press stop lever toward engine,and mine moves also
in that direction, but refuses if I try push it towards me (opposite way)

in some dudes video he easily did that and when I tried (for fun) I
notice that it would not obey

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Old 03-20-2012, 04:40 AM
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You have a big problem with the linkages.

Four questions:

1. Has the motor ever been replaced on this car?

2. Is your idle speed very slow right now?

3. When you press down on the accelerator, do you feel like the linkage is "pushing back" at first, before it moves?

4. If you look on the inside of the injection pump (the side nearest the motor itself), do you see the idle adjustment screw and locknut assembly? I cannot see clearly enough in the video to make out if it is still there.

Right now your stop lever appears to be resting against the valve cover.
1. yes,it was 5000cc gasser

2. nope,it is even bit bigger than it should be

3. yes,you might say that

4. adjustment screw and locknut assembly are still there

about stop lever I will double check,if so, I will try to adjusted it a bit

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Old 03-20-2012, 08:16 AM
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thank you for video mate!

in basics,we have same setup,and mine acts like yours
in video you press stop lever toward engine,and mine moves also
in that direction, but refuses if I try push it towards me (opposite way)

in some dudes video he easily did that and when I tried (for fun) I
notice that it would not obey

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You're welcome, my lever does not pull back (push it towards me) either, no need to, I would think.
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Old 03-20-2012, 08:45 AM
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You're welcome, my lever does not pull back (push it towards me) either, no need to, I would think.

ok thank's again, ( sry for me english )will start from some atf in joints..and
size checking ....



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1. yes,it was 5000cc gasser
about stop lever I will double check,if so, I will try to adjusted it a bit

Sorry I didn't read your signature line before I asked if it had an engine change... .

I asked that because when I had the motor changed out in my SD, when I got the car back from the garage it had the same problem. I had to go look at another car at a recyclers' yard, take photos, then put the linkage back together correctly. Unfortunately that was in 2005 and I no longer remember exactly how I fixed it.

I would start by looking carefully at toomany MBZ's video and comparing the linkage setup to yours. I think you may have one or more linkages installed in the wrong place (wrong length). Or a small piece is missing somewhere.

I asked about the adjustment screw because if the bracket that holds it in place breaks off (which happened to me), then the whole linkage starts to behave as you describe. But that is obviously not the case with your car.
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Sorry I didn't read your signature line before I asked if it had an engine change... .
np,mate

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I would start by looking carefully at toomany MBZ's video and comparing the linkage setup to yours. I think you may have one or more linkages installed in the wrong place (wrong length).....
my thoughts exactly


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This may help also.
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Old 03-22-2012, 04:25 AM
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bad welder

ok, finally done,every rod was 5mm or so out of specs. and I readjusted them but one thing blow my mind off (or..out )...

I have found connecting rod that goes to actuating lever on the pump VCV disconnected, even more when I pulled it out I found that it was previously broken and welded (badly)... go figure! ...so I made new one from 6mm steel bar with exact 122mm distance.

now it seats fine,...btw, what was I missing during this dis-conecction?
(I have driven car without this connection for month or so...)


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Old 03-22-2012, 04:54 PM
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AFAIK, the VCV lever is a vacuum bleed for the transmission, the faster you travel, the less vacuum the transmission needs.
MB VCV operation, part #617 070 02 46.avi - YouTube

Not sure why I plugged off the bleed orifice.

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