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Does manual climate control use any vacuum?
I disconnected all of the vacuum lines on my 1981 240d except the one to the shutoff for the ignition as I have some leaks in the locking circuit. I did this a few months ago while it was hot so I hadn't used the heater or defroster at all, and now my blower motor doesn't come on at all. I checked the fuse and it is fine. Does the system need some sort of vacuum to activate the blower motor? I guess it is possible that the blower motor went tits up, but it worked fine last spring. Any suggestions?
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I doubt it needs vacuum. The manual climate control on my 409d didn't. Just look at the main vacuum line. Is there any line coming off it other than the shut off and the doors? A climate control line would be green.
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No it's all cable operated vents and electric blower motor. But like kerry said if you do have some climate control vac you will have a green vac lines coming off the main vac line in the engine bay.
Did you pull the fuse or just look at it? I've seen these fuse get little circles cut out of them from the clips that hold them. The clip slowly cuts a little hole in the end of the fuse, and leaves poor contact. So make sure you pull it out and inspect it if you haven't. If you do find this situation, make sure to find the cut out bit. You don't want it floating around in the fuse box.
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There is a green vacuum line at the firewall that I disconnected. I assumed it was for the climate control to switch between the various vents. I hooked the vacuum tester to it and it does not hold vacuum so I left it unhooked. Would that keep the blower from coming on? PS- I checked the fuse with an ohmmeter after replacing it just in case that was the problem. According to my FSM I have the 3rd version of manual climate control.
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than cables to operate the air doors. Its more likely that you have a burned out speed resistor network. which is mounted in the left defroster vent on some 240D models, on the fender well in others. I'm note sure where the MY break is, since I've seen 1979/80 models with either mount type. It probably depends on airbox vendor, Siemens or Behr. Or a bad switch, if you've hot wired the blower and know it works. You can jumper the four pin connector at the blower cable to jumper out the lower speeds and get a single high speed blower.
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A 409d????
I have never heard of one. What is it exactly??? Are you referring to a T1????
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Pretty sure, although I can't find the high resolution side shot to read the badge.
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Yes, 409d is a van with a 617 engine. Doesn't look like the van pictured above though. It's the T1 body style (I think that's the correct designation). The van pictured above is the larger van versions.
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Later 240Ds have one vac pod, it is actuated by the detent on the a/c temperature wheel.
There is a vacuum solenoid on the far right side under the dash, it uses the green hose from the engine bay to shut the recirculating damper.
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It looks like I have low speed on the blower, but no high speed. I was trying it with the engine on and I couldn't hear the blower! So what could cause no high speed? The switch?
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Low speed but no high speed is bad switch or bad connection at the resistor.
240D blower control is very simple. The battery voltage goes to the resistor. The resistor is in two sections. The other end connects to the motor. The switch connects a couple contacts across the resistor, these short out one part of the resistor for medium or both parts for high. On low the entire resistor is in the circuit.
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Just took the blower out (which was a piece of cake!) and I can't locate the resistor(s)? My FSM shows them in the blower housing under the cover that the plug goes into, but it looks like a straight connection to me. It is a Siemens blower.
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