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zeke5551 03-19-2013 12:05 PM

Intercoooler on a 300D Turbo
 
Has anyone installed an intercooler on a 300D? I'm thinking about modifying the intake and plumbing in an intercooler while my engine is out, just not sure if it would be worth the effort. Any thoughts?
Zeke

Diesel911 03-19-2013 12:44 PM

It is not worth the effort if everthing else on the Engine is stock.

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daw_two 03-19-2013 12:53 PM

I doubt it its possible in a 300D unless you eliminate either the mechanical fan or the AC condensor.

I installed a customized intercooler in my 2000 Dodge Dakota CUMMINS 4bt, 4x4, Crew Cab. It's visiable in this pic:

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...k/DSCF9180.jpg

Zacharias 03-19-2013 02:44 PM

There is a guy on the STD turbodiesel performance forum who has rectangular (long/narrow) one mounted on the front chin of a w116 300sd.

One mean looking machine (numerous other mods as well)....:D

However, as mentioned, the standard line here is that and intercooler will be mostly decorative unless you intend to do significant a boost bump and ALDA crankup.

sassparilla_kid 03-19-2013 03:57 PM

If the engine is out it might be easier for you to do a little tweaking to the governors in the IP (there's a writeup about it on superturbodiesel), then you can adjust the boost up to about 12psi (or a little more if you go with a different turbo) and plumb in an intercooler. Check out air/water intercoolers, they are smaller than traditional air/air and don't require all the giant air piping everywhere, just smaller water lines to a separate radiator.

cho 03-19-2013 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Zacharias (Post 3116773)
There is a guy on the STD turbodiesel performance forum who has rectangular (long/narrow) one mounted on the front chin of a w116 300sd.

One mean looking machine (numerous other mods as well)....:D
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sadly that w116 is crushed IIRC.... :(


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zeke5551 03-21-2013 10:33 AM

I didn't memntion that the engine is married to a WC T5 5-speed and going in a 65 Ranchero. I've had 3 TDI Jettas and miss the milage. As a hot rod guy I really hate commuting with something as ordinary as my Miata and decieded to build a fun milage machine. So far it has 4 wheel disk brakes and AC. The only modifications to the engine would be to increase milage and maybe mild performance. I've owned a 82 300D turbo sedan and the performance was ok even with the 3 speed auto trans, so I figured a figured a 1200lbs lighter car and a efficient 5 speed manual trans ought to be much better. So what I would like to know what reasonible mods will increase milage and maybe a little performance. Thanks, Zeke

Mölyapina 03-21-2013 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by zeke5551 (Post 3117933)
I didn't memntion that the engine is married to a WC T5 5-speed and going in a 65 Ranchero. I've had 3 TDI Jettas and miss the milage. As a hot rod guy I really hate commuting with something as ordinary as my Miata and decieded to build a fun milage machine. So far it has 4 wheel disk brakes and AC. The only modifications to the engine would be to increase milage and maybe mild performance. I've owned a 82 300D turbo sedan and the performance was ok even with the 3 speed auto trans, so I figured a figured a 1200lbs lighter car and a efficient 5 speed manual trans ought to be much better. So what I would like to know what reasonible mods will increase milage and maybe a little performance. Thanks, Zeke

Unless someone did a weird tranny swap, that '82 would have come with a 4-speed auto.

vstech 03-21-2013 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jooseppi Luna (Post 3117936)
Unless someone did a weird tranny swap, that '82 would have come with a 4-speed auto.

um... since zero Turbo 300D's came with a manual trans... or went into a ranchero... I'm going with weird tranny swap...:D

Mölyapina 03-21-2013 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by vstech (Post 3117938)
um... since zero Turbo 300D's came with a manual trans... or went into a ranchero... I'm going with weird tranny swap...:D

Very true... I should consider the circumstances, I guess. :P

I'm curious as to how the WC T5 will be with the OM617! I don't relish the idea of putting non-MB into MB, but if it works out nicely... well, I can't swear what I would do.

Zacharias 03-21-2013 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by cho (Post 3116857)
sadly that w116 is crushed IIRC.... :(

What happened? He only built it about three years ago.... I am only an occasional visitor to that board.

Pics at: Jesse's hy35 powered w116

R.I.P.

zeke5551 03-21-2013 11:33 AM

Sorry, I have no idea if my 82 had a 3 or 4 speed auto...it was 20 years ago. A OM617 swap is very popular with the 4x4 guys. There are adapeters to add a Toyota,Chevy, Ford, Jeep, AMC or Chrysler transmission behind them. Adapting a late MB 5 speed to the engine was cost prohibitive (way more than our cars are worth, modified or stock). I have maybe $1000 into the convervsion, including new flywheel, clutch, adapter and transmission. If you care about having an original car, you wouldn't consider it, but if you want performance/milage via an overdrive and a huge choice of gear ratios it's something to consider. I've been told the 700R4 conversions are amazing on the OM617 as far as milage and performance gains, but I'm a manual guy. Anyways back to the question, which should apply to a MB or my kit car (as my wife calls it); what would you suggest for mild modifications to the OM617 to increase milage and possibly performance? I do NOT want something that smokes badly like the 4x4 diesel guys. I went that route on one of my Jettas with larger injectors and pump and hated it, but it performed amazing and averaged about 47mpg. My record was 56mpg...takes out a Prius! I'll be interested in what you think.

dude99 03-21-2013 02:08 PM

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What happened? He only built it about three years ago
There was a design flaw in the location of his intake which lead to it sucking in a bunch of water and bending a rod.

Zacharias 03-21-2013 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dude99 (Post 3118031)
There was a design flaw in the location of his intake which lead to it sucking in a bunch of water and bending a rod.

Okay, not to beat this to death, but Cho said it was crushed. He crushed that car because of a bent rod?

It is very hard for those of us back northeast in rustland to process the idea of crushing a w116 'cause it needed a motor. That's all.

End of sermon :o.

dude99 03-21-2013 02:30 PM

He bent the rod and then was unable to find a OM617 in his area. So he had it crushed....


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