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Old 04-06-2013, 04:58 PM
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Painting LCA...what to use?

Well, I got my lca out. knocked out the ball joint (and almost myself when the socket flew up and hit me right above the eye) I knew I should have spent a little more time looking for my face shield. Anyway. The LCA isn't extremely rusty, but was thinking of painting it with something to help protect it. I've seen a zinc/galvanizing type paint used. I have some rustoleum here and some 'rust former' primer by the same brand. Would this be ok? Is there a reason not to use this stuff?

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Old 04-06-2013, 05:13 PM
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Rust-Oleum does an acceptable job once it fully dries (takes months).

Personally, POR-15 is, by far, the most superior coating that I have ever encountered. It's expensive as hell but worth every penny.
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Old 04-06-2013, 06:19 PM
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X2 POR.

I replaced the lower BJ`s, upper Control arms and installed a thicker front Sway/Tortion Bar. stripped down the bar and the Steering knuckle to bare metal, the painted 2 coats of POR. it will hold up much better than anything else from rocks, debris etc...

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Old 04-06-2013, 06:55 PM
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why waste time to clean to metal if you're going to POR-15 it? I thought the whole point was to "paint over rust"
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Old 04-06-2013, 08:02 PM
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I didn`t say mine were rusty. As I remember the POR is to protect the metal and I seem to remember the paint adhears to the metal to protect it from rusting, and to cover and seal off any existing rust from moisture. If you are applying the POR over painted surfaces, it isn`t doing it`s comple job it was designed to do.

Also using POR metal Ready etches the metal to give the paint a tooth to help it bite into. MR is actually phosphoric acid as I recall reading.

Anyway, this is what I did, I enjoy usless time wasted activities to achieve the end results I hope to accomplish.

you don`t have to do like I did, do it however you want.


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Old 04-06-2013, 09:12 PM
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Rustoleum works just fine. For my winter cars, non visible from the outside areas get a spray of what ever color shows up at the discount store.
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Old 04-06-2013, 10:09 PM
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Rustoleum works just fine. For my winter cars, non visible from the outside areas get a spray of what ever color shows up at the discount store.
Please expand on this suggestion. Do you just spray the entire underbody, suspension, driveline, etc. As I have access to plenty of Rustoleum in spray and brush form. T.I.A. for any reply.
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Old 04-07-2013, 03:50 AM
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why waste time to clean to metal if you're going to POR-15 it? I thought the whole point was to "paint over rust"
That's the first bit of advertising - if you read the small print it says to remove as much rust as possible and then apply their special de-greaser and then the acid zinc stuff and then the POR-15 black paint that we all know and love and then if the POR-15 is in contact with sunlight (UV) it needs to be coated with their chassis top coat...
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Please expand on this suggestion. Do you just spray the entire underbody, suspension, driveline, etc. As I have access to plenty of Rustoleum in spray and brush form. T.I.A. for any reply.
Everything except for engine / trans / exhaust / rubber hoses gets painted. Wash under body with a hose, let dry, wire brush , let dry for weeks if possible, then spray everything with paint. Be sure to get in all the seams as this is where rust starts.

Once the paint has dried, I follow up with diesel fuel / generic oil mix in a garden sprayer. I use new oil not acidy used motor oil, I frequently come across hydraulic oil that has been removed from various machines. 2 QT of the mix seems to be enough, I even spray under hood and door seam areas.

This procedure is used every year to keep my oh so rusty winter truck going.

The first time you paint, some rust will bubble through in a year, scrape this and paint again. The next year less rust will pop up, after a few go rounds the rust will be held at bay.

Even if you use some sort of wonder rust treatment / paint, you will be retouching up in a years time anyway.

My paint supply comes from dollar stores that have odd rustolem colors at $ 2.50 a spray can. A can of black is used to touch up areas visible when the car is on the ground.
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Old 04-08-2013, 10:37 AM
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I used the rustoleum rust former primer stuff. I could have used some sparkle blue paint, or the hand hammered copper... That'd look pretty cool actually.
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Old 04-08-2013, 01:52 PM
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I used the rustoleum rust former primer stuff. I could have used some sparkle blue paint, or the hand hammered copper... That'd look pretty cool actually.
Well I've heard of under hood bling but that's probably going too far!
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I like Rust Destroyer. You can get in spray cans at Home Depot for $11 or buy in quart cans at paint shops (~$22, list in website). It can etch bare metal, including aluminum, plus convert rust. Claimed good to 800 F, so I used to prime a block. So far, I have not had it fail on any surface, including alum window frames on my trailer left outside. The only issue is best to a week before topcoat. I got some wrinkled spots in an epoxy top coat once when I waited their claimed 72 hours at 70 F.
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Old 04-08-2013, 02:46 PM
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I used Eastwood's Rust Encapsulator (3 coats) and then their Chassis Black paint (3 coats) on my rear lower control arms:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/303427-w126-trailing-arm-rear-lower-control-arm-rebuilt-replacement.html
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Old 04-08-2013, 03:46 PM
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I've had good luck with dollar bin spraypaint, as well as red oxide primer.

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