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Old 05-29-2013, 01:42 AM
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Clutch slave took a dump on me....

Thankfully though right next to a gas station. Three hours and one hefty towing bill later, my Benz and I are finally home. She's in the garage, and I'm waiting for payday to get the new slave cylinder. One that note, how difficult is it to replace one? I wouldn't think it'd be too hard...

But on another note: I bought a small bottle of DOT3 brake fluid there at the station to help troubleshoot (It's all they carried). Now I've been told to use ONLY DOT4, although I don't see any specifications in the Owner's manual or Haynes manual for this. As I understand, though, the specifications changed in the mid/late 80's to the current DOT standard. Thoughts on this?

I should really start posting pictures...where's my camera...

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Old 05-29-2013, 07:01 AM
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Very easy to replace. Very hard to bleed. Do some searching here for hundreds of tales of woe and intrigue.
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Old 05-29-2013, 09:38 AM
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Hard to replace and easy to bleed, atleast on the 5 and 6 cylinder engines...
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Old 05-29-2013, 04:14 PM
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Compared to the 240D replacing the slave on the 617 is a real pain.

Below is a post by "Beagle" concerning slave bleeding.

"Fill the slave before you install it and you don't need to bleed at all!

The method of pressure bleeding from the front brake caliper is most unsatisfactory for a number of reasons:

a) You are filling the clutch system with dirty fluid from the caliper.

b) As the front of the slave is inclined upwards on level ground (much worse on ramps) an air bubble is trapped at the front of the cyl. not purged when bleeding and can remain there giving a soft low pedal.

c) The whole procedure is a time consuming P.I.T.A. and completely unnecessary.

There is a much easier and quicker way to R & R and bleed the slave cyl.

1) Remove clutch feed pipe from brake M/C and drain reservoir. Replace feed pipe and refill to max with new fluid.

2) Remove pipe from slave cyl. and cap the pipe end with one of the bleed nipple rubber cups.

3) Undo bolts and remove slave.

To re-insall:

1)Thoroughly bench-bleed the slave leaving the push rod fully extended. Ensure all bubbles are out and fluid is filled level with the top of the pipe connection.

2) Remove the rubber cup and let at least an eggcup full of fluid drain down to replace old fluid in clutch M/C and then tighten pipe connection. Don’t pump the pedal!.

3)As the piston is pushed back in as you bolt the slave back on any air still in the pipe is pushed back up and through the M/C. Let it stand at least 15 mins before pumping pedal slowly.

4) Top up the reservoir and you’re done! "
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Old 05-31-2013, 06:53 PM
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Thanks for the replies, guys! One other question: Does FTE make good parts? I noticed Fastlane sells the FTE aftermarket slave cylinder. Or should I go with ate?
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Old 05-31-2013, 07:01 PM
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Trust me when I say this.....use DOT 5 silcone fluid in your clutch and never replace a slave again...
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Old 05-31-2013, 08:04 PM
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Thanks for the replies, guys! One other question: Does FTE make good parts? I noticed Fastlane sells the FTE aftermarket slave cylinder. Or should I go with ate?
I have always used FTE, never a problem

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