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10-14-2013, 06:18 PM
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Listen to this om603, tell me your thoughts.
Quick run from cold start of 87 300D - YouTube
Car sat for 2 years. Has been run a little but has been sitting a week before this start. 
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10-14-2013, 08:31 PM
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Typical 603 cold start and idle.
They do a bit better with a 35 second glow and they do much better if you bring them up to 1500 rpm for 30 seconds or so right on the start. You do have a lifter or two that is not quite fully pressurizing with oil. Also typical of this engine...........and intermittent depending on variables that I could never quite pin down.
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10-14-2013, 08:47 PM
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What you hear is why the "Afterglow" mod is popular. On the 87's, the plugs shut off once the car is running. On later cars they will stay on for up to 35seconds.
I have all the parts, but have yet to do the mod. It's on the list. Your GP's are fine. If you had even one malfunctioning, the car would not start that easy. Get that girl cleaned up and start driving her. The more I drive mine, the happier it runs. Most days she is stuck on local duty. These cars were made to run.
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10-15-2013, 04:55 AM
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That's not an easy start.
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#5
10-15-2013, 08:28 AM
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notice the delay on oil pressure rise...
I bet there are no o-rings on the oil filter shaft.
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10-15-2013, 08:31 AM
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread "as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do! My drivers: 1987 190D 2.5Turbo 1987 190D 2.5Turbo 1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!! 1987 300TD 1987 300TD 1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
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10-15-2013, 09:24 AM
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10-15-2013, 10:51 AM
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often, it's the shutoff actuator itself though... as for the o-rings... pull the shaft out of the oil filter lid... at the bottom of the shaft there are two grooves for o-rings. I use a 6mm ID by 2mm thick on the end, and a 7mm ID by 2mm thick on the upper groove. others use 6mm's for both ymmv...
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread "as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do! My drivers: 1987 190D 2.5Turbo 1987 190D 2.5Turbo 1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!! 1987 300TD 1987 300TD 1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
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10-15-2013, 12:23 PM
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10-15-2013, 12:56 PM
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When I start my OM601 cold the oil pressure takes about 3.5-5 seconds to come up fully....always has. o-rings on the shaft are new. Currently it has one or more dead lifters and is rattling/knocking away at idle. Not driving it until I replace them soon.
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#11
10-15-2013, 01:22 PM
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6 and 7mm orings, or two 6's?
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread "as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do! My drivers: 1987 190D 2.5Turbo 1987 190D 2.5Turbo 1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!! 1987 300TD 1987 300TD 1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
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10-15-2013, 06:21 PM
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Tell me more about these orings.
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10-15-2013, 10:26 PM
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http://superturbodiesel.com/images/sig.04.10.jpg 1995 E420 Schwarz 1995 E300 Weiss #1987 300D Sturmmachine #1991 300D Nearly Perfect #1994 E320 Cabriolet #1995 E320 Touring #1985 300D Sedan OBK #42
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10-15-2013, 10:33 PM
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That's what I heard. Or at least the other way - oil pressure builds up more quickly when plastic stiff o-rings are replaced with fresh rubber o-rings. It usually coincides with an oil change so maybe fresh oil builds pressure more quickly.
Sixto 87 300D
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