This is really to satisfy my curiosity. Here's the story:
After some intense shaking on the way home the other day I git the car up and wiggled some stuff around and found my passenger outer tie rod end was bad. So i took it off and as luck would have it (or so I thought) I ordered 2 of them last year just in case. So I take one out to thread in and the threads are wrong. The one off the car was reverse thread, the one in the box was regular. Same went for the other one I had. I called the parts store, the guy confirmed the part number was indeed an outer end. So I figured they screwed up the box. I ordered another one making sure it was an outer passenger.Of course i had to wait a day to get it. So I just picked it up and guess what?! Same darn thing. It cannot be a coincidence that three boxes (last one was a totally different store/brand) were messed up. So then I thought. could it be, someone in the past had the whole rod off, both inner and outer ends looking the same, and put in in backwards?

Or I guess I could have summed that whole shpeal up in one question, is the outer tie rod end supposed to have reverse threads? But then I wouldn't have been able to vent.

Hellifino....I just did this job with complete tie rod sets from Pelican. Lemforders with the tie rods already on the tube so no guessin!

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well, not much help but i'm so confused about the right and left thread thing that when i do my tie rods i think i'm just going to order the whole complete thing instead of just the ends. ugh.

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I'm thinking... You need to rotate the track rod 180 degrees. I'm not sure if there is any other difference in the ends except for the outer/inner and the threads.

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Just order the whole assembly and be done, just don't get uro brand ones....

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I agree, 180 the Tie Rod.


Tie Rod


Left Tie Rod end,

Tie Rod End (Left Hand Thread, Front Left or Right, Only for cars with 14 mm shaft diameter)


Right Tie Rod end.

Tie Rod End (Right Hand Thread, Front Left or Right, Only for cars with 14 mm shaft diameter) Brand:






No difference between the ends except for the threads.


Charlie

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1) Not much power
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Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

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There is a previous post relating to this.

The long and short of it was that at the factory tie rods came to the assembly line with both tie rod ends installed. It was pot luck which end got installed on the outside.

Many cars have reversed tie rods, so you really can't order parts by "inside" or "outside" tie rod end. You have to order by right or left hand threads.

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1987 MR2
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2006 Hyundai Tucson

Wow, seriously? That sounds like something you might find on a Yugo, not a Benz. Wish I would have known that info three days ago. Still without my car because of this. Hopefully tonight all will be well and I will remember to keep this in mind for the future.

Honestly didn't mean to be a smart ass with the first response but I'd read stories like this while planning my own tie rod job, and since Pelican sells the lemforders as a complete assembly I went for that. Price wise it's not much more and you get a nice new clean connecting assembly, and it's lemforder so do it once and you're done for a very long time.

I went elsewhere for my lower BJs and got screwed....completely wrong parts showed up and I ended up with parts store (moog= chinese) lower BJs because that's all I could get on the weekend.

When these BJs die in 5k miles I'll be ordering from PP and stop trying to save a dime

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On my 123, the tie rod assembly CAN be installed either way, but they DO have an inner/outer end, one end has a locknut, one end has a pinch-bolt clamp. I did not check when I replaced mine, but they were installed the same way they came off, locknut end inboard (bought the assemblies, not individual ends).

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(hate to kill one)
1998 Dodge diesel

This and corroded adjusting rod is why I replace assemblies.
The cost variation is minor, when I can be assured of an easy wheel alignment with good quality parts.

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I tried to do tie rod ends on the 240D a couple months back and ended up having to do the whole assemblies by the end.

It was my fault. I was having a shop do it and ordered the parts for them "in advance" so I could drop them off with the car. Ordered Lemfoerder ends knowing them to be a good name.

Shop calls me and says it won't work because they have four rod ends all the same length in the parts boxes, but the tie rods under the car need a short one and a long one. Apparently it was some other brand of tie rod assembly that used a short end and a long end, and the Lemforder ones are (apparently) too short to fulfill the "long" requirement.

It was taking up room at their facility and I had to do something so I just ordered two assemblies and sent back the ends. I do not know what brand the old one was (they put it in their scrap pile and I didn't ask) but evidently you also have to know the correct shank length on those things in addition to knowing which threads you need.

Live and Learn.

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1986 300SDL
1987 300SDL
1982 240D
1982 300SD


Current:

1987 300SDL

Agreed.

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ya know... we don't ALL live in the rust belt right?

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True, but many do.

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