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Old 02-18-2014, 11:07 AM
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Pre 1981 VIN Search

Does anyone know of a way to do a VIN search on a pre-1981 car (14 digit VIN) in order to confirm mileage and ownership history? Or is the data simply inaccessible?

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add WDB into the front of info, see if that helps.
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add WDB into the front of info, see if that helps.
That was my first thought....doesn't help.
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Try MBUSA Customer Relations in Montvale, NJ. They helped me with a VIN number. They will not have mileage documentation or service history.
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Try MBUSA Customer Relations in Montvale, NJ. They helped me with a VIN number. They will not have mileage documentation or service history.
Well, I can pull it up on the EPC....so I know it's a valid VIN and can see the options the car came with, etc... Maybe my best bet is a local dealer on the chance that that's where the car was serviced.
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Well, I can pull it up on the EPC....so I know it's a valid VIN and can see the options the car came with, etc... Maybe my best bet is a local dealer on the chance that that's where the car was serviced.
Something must have changed since I was not able to pull up anything on my 240D or 280E in the EPC last time I tried.

I highly doubt you will be able to get any accurate info thru carfax on a car that old.
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Send me VIN and I will try to give you a data card!
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Send me VIN and I will try to give you a data card!
I was able to see the data card....as I say, I can access it on the EPC.
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There is no source of Carfax-like info for cars prior to the standardized VIN system, other than paper records or access to previous owners. That rarely happens except for collector vehicles.

I was using Carfax when it first started and at that time (when there were way more of those era cars on the roads), that lack of info was a huge headache. However, the info on cars even close to the other side of the 1981 cutoff tended to be very sketchy as I think less information was held in the databases Carfax gets its info from (some states were much worse than others in that respect).

Honestly I find Carfax hit and miss at best. I have had two cars that were pronounced clean and tidy by Carfax that were anything but. Luckily I bought them on seen condition and the Carfax was run later for ___ and giggles. But I was kind of put off playing the long-distance buying game* as a result, given how easily I could see that I could have tarted one of those cars up and put it on eBay and advertised a "clean Carfax report!".

Perhaps if you tell us what you are trying to establish....

*: In terms of dealing with unknown entities with cars for sale
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I would love to find a place to look up the options on my 78....but i haven't found anyplace to do so yet...
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I would love to find a place to look up the options on my 78....but i haven't found anyplace to do so yet...
Have you tried the EPC?
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Does anyone know of a way to do a VIN search on a pre-1981 car (14 digit VIN) in order to confirm mileage and ownership history? Or is the data simply inaccessible?
You can get some data from the MB Classic center.

There are a few antique car concierge / detectives that specialize in digging up full vehicle history regardless of time, effort, money, but the ones I know are priced for people like "Jay Leno", "Bill Gates", etc.


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