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ROLLGUY 03-03-2014 08:15 PM

1985 CA emission 617 owners, You NEED This:
 
Now available for your California Emissions OM617: Trap-Ox (or Trap-Cat) Bypass "Test" Pipe. The cost is $150 (Postage included). The prototype was made with harvested flanges from an old trap-ox, but the production units will be made with new laser cut flanges. The pipe is 16 gauge DOM, and is TIG welded. Gaskets and EGR block-off plate included.

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Here is the first candidate for the new pipe: My bro's 1985 300D.
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I first removed the downpipe, turbo oil line, intake tube and other bracketry:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1...y/DSCF0029.jpg

I then removed the 4 turbo bolts, braces, and exhaust output flange to remove the turbo:
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Next I removed the 3 bolts holding the trap-ox, the EGR, and the removed the trap-ox :
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1...y/DSCF0036.jpg

The pipe installed with gasket and factory braces:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1...y/DSCF0037.jpg

Next I installed the turbo and took it for a test drive. The final result:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1...y/DSCF0038.jpg

The installation makes it easier to access the starter, and also will improve performance (especially if you have a plugged trap!).....Rich

Check out:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/350886-my-new-project-trap-ox-bypass-pipe-1985-ca-emissions-300d.html

gatorblue92 03-03-2014 08:31 PM

I thought the trap ox was removed under warranty in most cars.

ROLLGUY 03-03-2014 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatorblue92 (Post 3295647)
I thought the trap ox was removed under warranty in most cars.

Maybe on the 126's with the 603, but the 617's had them replaced (under warranty) including the turbo if it got ruined. The installation of this pipe makes the area a lot cleaner, and easier to work on other nearby parts. The starter brace (if it is still there, as most people leave it off) is a real pain to get to with the trap in place, but very easy to access from above with the trap gone...Rich

jay_bob 03-03-2014 09:11 PM

603s had the trap ox replaced with a straight pipe as part of the recall. They added a cat downstream in the exhaust line post turbo.

DeliveryValve 03-03-2014 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROLLGUY (Post 3295636)
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The installation makes it easier to access the starter, and also will improve performance (especially if you have a plugged trap!).....Rich

Speaking if starters, you can now use a cheaper, readily available Federal starter with this setup.

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ROLLGUY 03-03-2014 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeliveryValve (Post 3295712)
Speaking if starters, you can now use a cheaper, readily available Federal starter with this setup.

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Yes, I hadn't thought of that. That would be a good time to install this test pipe, when your starter goes bad= "kill two birds with one stone". Thanks, Rich

ROLLGUY 04-07-2014 04:27 PM

I now have the laser cut flanges, and the pipes are in production:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1...DSCF0007-4.jpg
These should be ready to ship soon. I just need to find a good source for the gaskets. For some weird reason, the factory 3 bolt flange does not have a gasket. However, I will be providing one with the kit along with a turbo gasket....Rich

BillGrissom 04-26-2014 12:41 PM

Before starting this job, I suggest buying a new turbo-to-intake manifold rubber seal, since those are real cheap (I think same PN for 85 CA). I had oil dripping from that junction in one 300D and fixed it (w/ turbo on) by jamming O-ring material into the gap, then self-fusing silicone tape.

Rollguy, I suggest your brother replace that evil "aux water pump" with 5/8" heater hose (I used silicone) since not needed in the lower 48. It can fry your climate push-button and probably cause the whole car to catch fire (suspected in several under-dash fires).

ROLLGUY 05-08-2014 07:41 PM

EGR block-off plate included
 
I am including an EGR block-off plate kit with every pipe purchased.
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1...DSCF0001-7.jpg

I am having a hard time finding the EGR gaskets cheap enough, so I may just have them made. I will be offering this kit for the Federal models when I get the manifold block-off discs made (should be soon).....Rich

ROLLGUY 06-13-2014 01:47 AM

I now have the complete EGR block-off plate kits available. The bypass pipe comes with everything but the disc, as it is not needed. The photo is of the kit I sell for all other MB Diesel engines:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1...DSCF0010-2.jpg

TheDon 06-13-2014 09:03 AM

Fancy packaging.

Also, watch your focus ;)

tomrunn 08-30-2014 07:47 PM

thanks Roll guy!
 
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I got the kit from Rich Roll Guy - the fabricated "test pipe and the EGR bypass." It worked great! All it took for removal of the turbo and the trap oxidizer was lots and lots of patient wrench work, with a variety of wrench shapes and lengths. Installation was even easier. I'm taking it on a long test drive next week.

My 85 Mercedes 300D, California emissions.
Attachment 124108

the turbo, with a chunk of the ceramic insides from the trap jammed in the throat of the turbo. It didn't make it to the innards, I got lucky!
Attachment 124109

This is the offending trap ox, and EGR. I hate it.
Attachment 124111

The EGR bypass plate in place.
Attachment 124112

Thanks Rich!
Tom

RonawitZ 12-17-2014 11:03 PM

trap oxidizer
 
Help
Rich RollGuy,
Are the pipes still for sale?
I have a nasty leak between the flange and the pip on the trap oxidizer side of the pipe.

ROLLGUY 12-18-2014 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonawitZ (Post 3420782)
Help
Rich RollGuy,
Are the pipes still for sale?
I have a nasty leak between the flange and the pip on the trap oxidizer side of the pipe.

pm sent

ROLLGUY 01-09-2015 01:34 AM

Price change
 
As of January first 2015, the price is $150 plus shipping/handling/insurance.


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