Hey guys,

I'm looking to buy flywheel bolts to finish my OM617 swap, and was wondering if the flywheel bolts for the W123 chassis are the same? AutohasAZ lists them as being for the automatic transmission, but I have the manual.

Also, who has the quickest shipping? I know Pelican is really quick, but their FW bolts are $9/pop.

Any other advice?

Thanks,
Josh

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1980 240D "Haley" - 266k mi | OM617.952 | 4-speed | Euro Propshaft | 2.88 Rear | Motor Out of Car
1994 E320 "Lauren" - 115k | As stock as they come
2010 Mazda Axela "Grace" - 32k | H&R Lowering Springs | K&N Air Filter

1981 RX7 - Sold and not really missed

Looking for a paint color suggestion for my 240D with Palimono MB-Tex interior!

I think so, but I'd compare part #s on Pelican to make sure.

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Auto and manual are different, and you can reuse them if they are within spec. They're expensive all right.

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manual flywheel needs manual flywheel specific bolts. You can't go back and forth, the auto flywheel bolts are stretch bolts and quite a bit longer with a lower profile tool surface, vs the manual flywheel bolts are regular bolts and threaded all the way, with a much deeper tool surface and shorter threaded surface. The automatic flywheel is a lot thicker in this specific area then either the 28 or 38lb manual flywheels are.

If you use auto flywheel bolts on a manual flywheel, you will end up hitting the oil pan with the end of the bolt before its tight

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Glad I made this post. Almost bought the auto ones Would you happen to know what in spec would be?

I also cant seem to find the manual bolts anywhere. Nor does it really specifiy for auto or manual. Darned expensive bolts.

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1980 240D "Haley" - 266k mi | OM617.952 | 4-speed | Euro Propshaft | 2.88 Rear | Motor Out of Car
1994 E320 "Lauren" - 115k | As stock as they come
2010 Mazda Axela "Grace" - 32k | H&R Lowering Springs | K&N Air Filter

1981 RX7 - Sold and not really missed

Looking for a paint color suggestion for my 240D with Palimono MB-Tex interior!

You might call ARP (Google them). They make tough aircraft-quality bolts for all kinds of things. Chances are good that they have provided these to previous projects and will know the dimensions. Their stuff is well beyond Grade 8 (whatever that is in metric) and will NEVER fail.

Worth a try

Dan

Well the one place you mentioned does list flywheel bolts under engine parts for $7.56. Anyway, if money is real tight I would suggest you buy just one and find someone who has a micrometer to tell you how much yours have streched. You could probably find the "use" or "do not use" length also in the factory service manual. I think even the Haynes Manual might list how much "strech" is permissible.

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1983 Mercedes W123 240D 4 Speed 285,000 on the road with a 617 turbo, beautiful butter yellow, license plate # 83 240D INDIANA

2003 Jaguar Type X, AWD. beautiful, good mileage,
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I am wrong -- how shocking.

@Dan Stokes -- the metric bolt grades are 8.8, 10.9, and 12.9.

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1982 300SD -- 211k, Texas car, tranny issues ____ 1979 240D 4-speed 234k -- turbo and tuned IP, third world taxi hot rod

2 Samuel 12:13: "David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.” And Nathan said to David, “The Lord also has put away your sin; you shall not die."

Automatic trans FW bolts are totally different than the bolts for the manual transmission. will not work.

They are a torque to yield bolt, one time use, unless you want to chance it.

The Part# is 615-032-05-71. Stahl Motors in Monterey, Ca. has them for $4.80 ea. Dealer list is $6.00.

Mercedes Benz SCREW - 6150320571


Price has come down, I bought some and they were $7.24 retail and $5.80 wholesale about 6 - 7 months ago.

I just saw some on E-Bay for $12.95 ea. and Amazon has them for $9.42.

I didn`t see them listed on pelican.


Charlie

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1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

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I needed them by tomorrow, luckily my mechanic (Ernie's Mercedes Service, really really good in Sac if you can get through his assistant) was able to look them up and get them for me for $6/pop. Which isnt too bad, and they're going to be here tomorrow. I even entered my credit card info to buy the auto ones on Pelican. I'm trying to finish my car before spring break is over so I may be able to drive it back to school

Thanks for the help guys! Now I know (any maybe everyone on this forum) knows that the auto ones are different than the standard ones.

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1980 240D "Haley" - 266k mi | OM617.952 | 4-speed | Euro Propshaft | 2.88 Rear | Motor Out of Car
1994 E320 "Lauren" - 115k | As stock as they come
2010 Mazda Axela "Grace" - 32k | H&R Lowering Springs | K&N Air Filter

1981 RX7 - Sold and not really missed

Looking for a paint color suggestion for my 240D with Palimono MB-Tex interior!

Keep that web site I listed handy, fill out the Credit card Info, and you can get the parts Wholesale. You do need the part number.


www.benzpartswholesale.com

Charlie

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works

here is a link to the specs on stretch and included is a link to info on auto trans bolts

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/342263-flywheel-bolts.html#post3189564

Thanks guys, my project is most likely going to be another 240D or manual something, so these specs are great. Bookmarked all of these links.

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1980 240D "Haley" - 266k mi | OM617.952 | 4-speed | Euro Propshaft | 2.88 Rear | Motor Out of Car
1994 E320 "Lauren" - 115k | As stock as they come
2010 Mazda Axela "Grace" - 32k | H&R Lowering Springs | K&N Air Filter

1981 RX7 - Sold and not really missed

Looking for a paint color suggestion for my 240D with Palimono MB-Tex interior!