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Old 03-13-2014, 11:30 PM
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Rear Suspension Creak W201 1989 190D

I have a distinct creak in the rear suspension, driver's side, like bouncing on a mattress. Just replace the shock, so that's not it.

I've been under and pushed on all the multi-link, but haven't found any play. I've bought the multi-link kit, but that's a job for another day.

Other thoughts:
1) Subframe bushings?
2) Spring rubber mount?

Any thoughts on how to test for what is creaking? Its easy to replicate, but I can't find a way to have it make the noise when the car is jacked up.

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Old 03-14-2014, 12:20 AM
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What do you mean by the multi-link?

My first thought is sway bar links.

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Old 03-14-2014, 12:22 AM
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Sorry, should have been more clear - by multi link i meant the 5 members in the multi link rear suspensionl
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Old 03-14-2014, 03:45 AM
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You have a rubber bushing in board on the spring link (the elongated dish part that holds the spring at the bottom); on the wheel bearing housing (also called carrier) there's a little bushing that has a ball joint type bearings.

Those two are (at a guess) quite likely to be noisy areas if it isn't the shocks.

There are also rubber ends to each of the struts - except for one end of the camber strut that also has a little ball joint.

Essentially the process is to systematically spray each joint in turn with light machine oil / WD40 and then bounce the car up and down to see if it was that.

If you want pictures of the parts I've put loads of them in this thread =>

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/341121-achtung-das-schweinhund-baby-benz-thread-21.html

Rear suspension refurbishment kind of starts on page 21 but it still isn't done yet...
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Old 03-14-2014, 09:08 AM
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The 124 is similar. BTDT.

It could be any of the multitude of rubber to metal interfaces in the rear suspension.

Dropping the rear subframe and rebuilding everything was expensive and took 6 months but the car drives like new now.
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:34 AM
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Alright, that's a good start on a method - will get out the WD40. Might be a better idea to use silicone spray instead, actually, because that won't dry out the rubber.
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Old 03-14-2014, 12:09 PM
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Silicone spray is the fruit of the devil!
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I can't tell if that's intended as positive or negative?

My understanding was that WD40 can deteriorate rubber, so silicone would be a better choice.
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Old 03-14-2014, 12:21 PM
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Sorry not to be 100% clear on this - I'm a bit old school; the devil is not good...

I don't think rubber deterioration is too too much of a concern on parts that hold grease in place. Particularly when we're talking about spraying into ball joint (or ball joint type) boots then I'd be using an oil for leak detection.

I have had a negative experience with silicone sprays the stuff seems to dry things out more than real oil. Particularly in locks. You might also be surprised to learn that most silicone sprays are oil based anyway...

...to avoid the possibility of oil damage to solid (non grease bearing) bushes I use KJ jelly when fitting them but I know this lubricant won't penetrate for squeak detection.

For door seals silicone is also the kiss of death in my experience. I was overjoyed when I found I could get aerospace303 over here...

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Old 03-14-2014, 12:57 PM
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Fair enough, WD40 it is, and I'll learn to watch out for the devil's fruit...

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