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5 speed gearbox from T1 van - my recent experience FWIW
I know a lot are curious as to what these gearboxes are like, and there have been threads that touch on the subject before.
I bought a 240TD that had a 617.952 swapped into it from a '81 Euro import 300TD, and a 711.113 gearbox from a T1 van, now that combo is in my '78 300D. This gearbox is the one with the 0.8 5th and 4.7 1st gear of course, you wouldn't want the other one... First is under reverse, ie "dogleg", and the reverse light switch needs to be modified if using a 4 speed gear stick - my mechanic hasn't done this as he says to just start off in 2nd (which of course is 1st on the 4 speed gear knob). Second is very slow to take off with, turbo lag and all, have to fully floor it. First and second gears (the real 2nd!) are unsynchronised (I think), they whine a bit, and need double clutching when changing down - also very hard to go 3rd>2nd with cold gearbox oil, no matter how hard I try my trucker skills! Also makes a bit off a strange noise when lugging the engine (accidentally! still getting used to it, but I'm sure that it's vibration related. I hope that this gearbox will be a good choice for super duper engine mods later on. Edit: Have a slipping clutch issue, mechanic swapped the clutch diaphragm / pressure plate from the old box but it still does it when really hoofing it, it keeps my right foot at bay though so maybe it's a good thing, lol
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1978 300D, 373,000km 617.912, 711.113 5 speed, 7.5mm superpump, HX30W turbo...many, many years in the making.... 1977 280> 300D - 500,000km+ (to be sold...) 1984 240TD>300TD 121,000 miles, *gone* 1977 250 parts car 1988 Toyota Corona 2.0D *gone* 1975 FJ45>HJ45 1981 200>240D (to be sold...) 1999 Hyundai Lantra 1.6 *gone* 1980s Lansing Bagnall FOER 5.2 Forklift (the Mk2 engine hoist) 2001 Holden Rodeo 4JB1T 2WD |
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Interesting! I would have warned that this gearbox might have been too bulky to fit in a sedan. Thinner lube might help with the shifting....or synthetic.
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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC] ..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis. |
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Will look into that, mechanic changed fluid when he had it in is workshop so not sure what else I can do, assuming ATF is what's in it now
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1978 300D, 373,000km 617.912, 711.113 5 speed, 7.5mm superpump, HX30W turbo...many, many years in the making.... 1977 280> 300D - 500,000km+ (to be sold...) 1984 240TD>300TD 121,000 miles, *gone* 1977 250 parts car 1988 Toyota Corona 2.0D *gone* 1975 FJ45>HJ45 1981 200>240D (to be sold...) 1999 Hyundai Lantra 1.6 *gone* 1980s Lansing Bagnall FOER 5.2 Forklift (the Mk2 engine hoist) 2001 Holden Rodeo 4JB1T 2WD |
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Is the clutch bled properly? Sometimes "weird ****" happens when it isn't.
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits! |
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Run redline or regular dextron aft in that thing will smooth out most all dilema's
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I don't even know if the slave cylinder was even disconnected when the gearbox was swapped, the clutch does work fine aside from the occasional slip. Might bleed it anyway next weekend as the line might be full of gunk.
Was going to look for the redline MTF but not sure if it's available here in NZ. I do have a half full DX III container in the shed to use anyway though.
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1978 300D, 373,000km 617.912, 711.113 5 speed, 7.5mm superpump, HX30W turbo...many, many years in the making.... 1977 280> 300D - 500,000km+ (to be sold...) 1984 240TD>300TD 121,000 miles, *gone* 1977 250 parts car 1988 Toyota Corona 2.0D *gone* 1975 FJ45>HJ45 1981 200>240D (to be sold...) 1999 Hyundai Lantra 1.6 *gone* 1980s Lansing Bagnall FOER 5.2 Forklift (the Mk2 engine hoist) 2001 Holden Rodeo 4JB1T 2WD |
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I think you are much better off sticking with the ATF for the gearbox as specified by Mercedes - don't waste your money trying other products
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits! |
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