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Old 11-09-2014, 03:01 PM
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LIFT Pump Pressure While Cranking

On my 300sd, I have been having problems with hard start and plugging the primary filter. I decided to change the main filter and did so without filling the filter. Yes I knew better. I couldn't get the injectors primed. The pressure from the lift pump was 5psi cranking. I had a new paint pot with a pressure regulator, filled it with diesel, Set the pressure at 20psi using air pressure and cranking with the lines all loose, got diesel instantly at the injectors. Started right up. Fuel pressure was 20psi at idle and around 30psi at high idle.
Before this took place, I had disassembled the lift pump and cleaned it up.
And had 5psi at cranking RPM.

What should the fuel pressure be at cranking RPM?

Thanks, Tom


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Old 11-09-2014, 03:40 PM
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Here's the FSM chapter (for a W123) for the OM617 turbo lift pump test

http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/12265/disc_2/program/Engine/617/07_1-145.pdf
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Old 11-09-2014, 03:41 PM
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At the lift pump around thirty pounds. A seriously restricted tank filter can keep it low as well remember. Dead heading the lift pump is fine and will do no damage.

I would suspect at even just twenty pounds at the output of the lift pump there is a problem. I think the best quick test is to disconnect the tank line at the tank and look at the flow. It should be a decent gravity flow.

Also make sure the tank vent is functional or the vacuum accumulation in the tank will fight the lift pump until it is unable to provide any pressure at all sometimes. The pressures quoted in the factory manuals are rock bottom I would think.

When you factor in the fuel filters resistance to flow etc. A good relief valve wants at least 14 pounds pressure to open. So on average a pump at one bar will not do it. One bar being about 14 pounds pressure. Without the relief valve open you eliminate the cooling effect of fuel being returned to the fuel tank helping to cool the injection pump. As well as putting the cigar hose function out of the circuit.


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