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Old 12-29-2014, 12:57 AM
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603 Motor: Rear Muffler - Mfg. Ansa or Bosal

Any recent experiences with Ansa or Bosal mufflers?

I have a 300sdl with a rear muffler heading south (cannister rotting).

I'd like to replace with stock Eberspacher but the local dealer wants around $450.

I see Ansa & Bosal Brands for about a third the cost of stock.

Searched the threads and could not determine if these aftermarket units are as quiet or close to as quiet as the stock Eberspacher.

Quiet is my goal...don't need the long term stainless steel jobs either.

Thanks in advance.

Rob

PS....Open to alternatives i.e. flowmaster etc.

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Old 12-29-2014, 04:49 AM
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Two words: Straight pipe.
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Old 12-29-2014, 08:56 AM
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Two words: Straight pipe.
LOL Skippy (I think)...Straight Pipe sounds more like a nick name that I'm not ready to put on the car. I still kind of like a little refinement in a S Klasse. Thank you for your input...
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Old 12-29-2014, 10:25 AM
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What Skippy is getting at, is that the rear muffler doesn't do a whole lot. The turbocharger blocks a huge amount of the engine sound, the resonator/center muffler takes care of most of the rest. So there won't be any meaningful difference between makes. And quite a few guys have just run straight pipe instead... but if quiet is your first criterion, then put a muffler back on.

The mufflers on the diesels are very long lived. Whichever brand you choose to install now, may well outlast the rest of the car.
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Old 12-29-2014, 10:33 AM
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I have replaced the rear muff with straight pipes on all of my turbocharged and gas Mercedes for the last 20 years or so. Most times it cannot be told from stock. Under certain circumstances there is a noticeable growl....not very pronounced but to me, enjoyable.
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Old 12-29-2014, 11:26 AM
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What Skippy is getting at, is that the rear muffler doesn't do a whole lot. The turbocharger blocks a huge amount of the engine sound, the resonator/center muffler takes care of most of the rest. So there won't be any meaningful difference between makes. And quite a few guys have just run straight pipe instead... but if quiet is your first criterion, then put a muffler back on.

The mufflers on the diesels are very long lived. Whichever brand you choose to install now, may well outlast the rest of the car.

Interesting.....the SDL had the oxygen catalyst for the center muffler. I had it removed 'cause it clogged up. So it is currently straight pipe to the rear muffler which is getting louder as the rear muffler canister leaks more and more.

Question for all..... So to quiet things down maybe I should be putting a mid section resonator/center muffler in and see how it sounds, correct? Then maybe go straight pipe or add a new rear muffler as well.

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Old 12-29-2014, 11:30 AM
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I've used the rear muff only too with about the same results. If my rear muff was good I'd do what you did with the center.

In other words, I'd run with one muff and it would be the one that was easiest and most economical to keep.
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I've used the rear muff only too with about the same results. If my rear muff was good I'd do what you did with the center.

In other words, I'd run with one muff and it would be the one that was easiest and most economical to keep.

Thanks Mr. Walgamuth! I like the way you think. I wonder if some sort of glass pack placed mid section followed by a rear muffler may be the quietest.

And don't get me wrong....I do like a motor to breath and love the quicker rpms with the current limited back pressure.

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