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Manual Transmission Options for my 617
What manual transmission options do I have for the engine in my 1981 300D? It currently has a manual transmission.
I'm pulling the engine out of the car and am starting to think towards putting in something else. Thanks for your thoughts.
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Wordmanjay Tribetown, Ohio |
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the two kinds of 4-speeds you will be able to find in US market 240Ds are iron boxes (77-81ish) and aluminum getrags (82-83ish). either one is fine, but the accessories are different. the very early iron boxes also have different slave cylinders. consider buying a whole donor chassis because with just the box, you will have a number of other parts to source.
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Are there any options "outside of the box"?
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Wordmanjay Tribetown, Ohio |
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sure. plenty of adapters out there to put in a ford or chevy manual trans or 700R4 auto with tc lockup... none are bolt in, all require tons of modifications...
also you could source the crazy expensive 5 speed for that vehicle... and rare... you can also get a 60x trans and modify the motor plate to work with the box... you can also, rig the newer 6 speed but LOTS need to be done to integrate it into the car...
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Toyota W59. I think it has a very good chance of being a good 5-speed option for the OM61X platform. You'll need to:
-Make a custom adapter (not too hard, people have done it) -Figure out how to hook up the driveshaft to the tranny -Possibly lengthen/shorten the shifter... here are example ways of doing this (here and here). -Figure out which starter you want... the Toyota starter may interfere with the exhaust, but you need to cut a little off the outside of the Toyota flywheel to fit the OM617 starter ring onto it. -Make a pilot bearing/crank adapter, or maybe buy it from 4x4labs? They sell a kit, so they might sell individually as well. -Figure out your speedometer situation Some links on swapping the OM617 into Toyota pickups (note that these are with the R150, not the W59): Dmarsh4X4's OM617 swap to 1988 4Runner - YotaTech Forums Topic: 1990 Toyota 4x4 Pickup with OM617 Mercedes Turbo Diesel Swap (1/1) - EricTheCarGuy - Eric The Car Guy- Stay Dirty! Expanded version of the second link: PowerstrokeJoe's om617 Turbo Diesel swap/build in 1990 P/up - Page 5 - YotaTech Forums Reasons to go with the W59: -Cheap, plentiful -Well built, installed stock in trucks that made 190 HP/220 lb-ft -The gear ratios are very close to those of the 5-speed that came stock in these cars. -The starter hump is right where it needs to be for the OM61X
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A focused answer to "something else", will depend a lot on a focused explanation of the objectives to be met.
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I should clarify that what I posted has never been done, so doing it will leave you somewhat in the dark and waist-deep for a bit.
Wait, are you interested in swapping the engine into something else? Check out 4btswaps.com... there's a section there for the OM617, it might give you an idea as to what you can do.
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This just popped up on SuperTurboDiesel - Toyota 5 Speed (W56) to OM617 Adapter Plates for Sale
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