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Old 10-22-2015, 11:11 AM
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braided oil cooler lines?

noticed i have a slight leak in the lower line at the swivel near the oil cooler. Wondering if anyone has replaced with braided lines and if so what is the fitting size they used?

this is for a 1985 300td

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Old 10-22-2015, 11:37 AM
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This might help you?

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/354554-converting-oil-cooler-lines-stainless-braided-hose.html

A wet seeping Oil Line crimp can lead to this.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/3434444-post12.html



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thanks! i actually found that right after i submitted the question, and also found the much simpler fix where you cut off the old hydraulic lines at the clamps and then use new hydraulic hose and T clamps. I'm more interested if anyone has replace the entire line from fitting to fitting with braided, not brazed on bungs or anything like that.

I was hoping someone could tell me the size for the fitting that screws into the Oil cooler, I'd like to find a metric to AN adapter. In the repair thread he uses a tap to change the pattern to NPT.

I believe you could use 4 of these fittings, and then a longer length of braided line. It would be superior to the other repairs out there, and substantially cheaper then replacement lines. I have alot of vibrations going on with my build and have cracked hard lines in the past. So flexible hose is key
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I was hoping someone could tell me the size for the fitting that screws into the Oil cooler, I'd like to find a metric to AN adapter. In the repair thread he uses a tap to change the pattern to NPT.

I believe you could use 4 of these fittings, and then a longer length of braided line. It would be superior to the other repairs out there, and substantially cheaper then replacement lines.
So far the research has turned up nothing, but maybe a fresh research project from a different perspective will turn up a better solution...we all await your report back. Or maybe this is the seed of a new business - designing and manufacturing a MB to AN fitting for the hordes of enthusiasts yearning for a solution...
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Read the current thread "Cheap oil cooler hose replacement". I used AC hose 5/8" ID.

I doubt braided hose would help, other than for bling, and not even that when it gets grubby and hard to clean. The line pressure is low, plus better to use hose w/ internal wires for high pressures, such as your H.P. power steering hose or SLS hose.

I agree w/ mach4 that you would be very lucky to find those fittings in the U.S. and we all anxiously await news if you do. I recall a term like "beaded". You see similar smaller ones on the vacuum pump tubing.
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thanks! i actually found that right after i submitted the question, and also found the much simpler fix where you cut off the old hydraulic lines at the clamps and then use new hydraulic hose and T clamps. I'm more interested if anyone has replace the entire line from fitting to fitting with braided, not brazed on bungs or anything like that.

I was hoping someone could tell me the size for the fitting that screws into the Oil cooler, I'd like to find a metric to AN adapter. In the repair thread he uses a tap to change the pattern to NPT.

I believe you could use 4 of these fittings, and then a longer length of braided line. It would be superior to the other repairs out there, and substantially cheaper then replacement lines. I have alot of vibrations going on with my build and have cracked hard lines in the past. So flexible hose is key
From what I have seen on Trucks and other equipment braided steel hoses are not compatible with the typical adjustable hose clamps. The braided steel makes it harder for the clamps to squeeze down on the Hoes.


The repairs I have seen like that leaked when they got a few years old.

Bell Metric sells the same 15mm Hose (no steel braid in it) that is used on the stock type hoses with crimped collars that you buy. It is entirely adequate.
The above info applies to my 84 300D.
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thanks! i actually found that right after i submitted the question, and also found the much simpler fix where you cut off the old hydraulic lines at the clamps and then use new hydraulic hose and T clamps. I'm more interested if anyone has replace the entire line from fitting to fitting with braided, not brazed on bungs or anything like that.

I was hoping someone could tell me the size for the fitting that screws into the Oil cooler, I'd like to find a metric to AN adapter. In the repair thread he uses a tap to change the pattern to NPT.

I believe you could use 4 of these fittings, and then a longer length of braided line. It would be superior to the other repairs out there, and substantially cheaper then replacement lines. I have alot of vibrations going on with my build and have cracked hard lines in the past. So flexible hose is key
Once you remove the Nipples from the Oil Filter Housing you are left with 18mmx1.5 internal threads. I believe they make fittings with the metric threads on one end and one of the US fittings on the other side.
Since the Oil Cooler Housing Nipples are Aluminum the ID can easily drilled and tapped for US fittings.

If you are willing to do that you can use US sized Hose with US fittings. But, it will be more expensive then just replacing the Hose, more complication and more work.

The main work of replacing only the Hose is cutting/grinding the crimped Collars off. There is no need to remove anything else but the Collars and the old Hose. That also means you do not have to risk stripping the threads on the Oil Cooler Nipples because you don't need to remove the Hose ends from the Nipples.

So I guess I am saying superior from what point of view.
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Old 10-22-2015, 07:20 PM
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18mm x 1.5 Metric Male to -10 AN Male
Russell 670570, Russell AN Male to Metric Male Adapter Fittings | Russell

-10AN Hose End
JEGS Performance Products 100003, JEGS AN Hose End Fittings - Blue/Red | JEGS Performance Products

-10 AN Push Loc Hose
JEGS Performance Products 102031, JEGS Push-Loc Hose | JEGS Performance Products

Looks like it probably would work, but at a cost of $150 at summit (i use jegs because its easier to navigate and then cross reference) You are still better off going with a stock replacement hose or Diesel 911's fix.
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Old 10-23-2015, 11:06 AM
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I think Mcmasters Karr also sells the Fittings. Not sure if Granger does.

You also might look on eBay for the fittings.

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