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300SD tachometer not working after engine swap
heyo all,
i recently swapped an 86' 300SD motor into a 85' 300d. now im getting to the little issues and next up is the tachometer. i took the reader off my 300d and stuck it on the SD motor. the tach is off by a percent (i dont know it for sure but pretty much when im cruising at 70mph it shows 1800-2000 rpm. it shows an idle of just above 500. i have heard about a tach amp??? idk what is the correct way to do it but any help is greatly appreciated.. thanks, Jack |
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Which motor did you install?
The 86 model would be a OM603 6 cylinder. And it would be from an SDL, not an SD...
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now that i think of it it makes more sense that its an 85' thanks. JAck |
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The easiest way to tell is just count the injectors...if there are 5 it's a 617 and if there are 6 it's a 603.
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its a five cylinder. it would be a squeeze to get the 603 into this car. anyway im just wondering about the tach
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The '85 did not use a tach amp. Pre-85 (or possibly pre-84) vehicles used a VR sensor mounted to read a pin on the harmonic damper and the signal is routed through the tach amp and then to the tach module in the cluster. The 85 on the other hand takes its signal off the flywheel teeth and routes it through the EGR controller and then to the tach module in the cluster. Some have reported that the signal can be routed directly to the tach module, bypassing the EGR controller completely. In my swap, I kept the EGR controller mostly because I thought I would need it to pass the BAR inspection. I don't know if there is a difference in the tach module itself between the 85 and the earlier but I suspect there might be - and your experience might point to this reality.
Here's the diagram Hope that helps.
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Are you using the ring gear and tach sensor from the old engine or of the replacement engine? Did you touch the rear axle or change tire size? Sixto 83 300SD |
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i just recently put a 3.07 differential in the car (from the original 2.88) and that did not make any difference in the tach. my guess is that the flywheel in the SD motor is different than the 300d one therefore it is reading off. |
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It wouldn't....tach measures engine speed while the differential would affect car speed (speedometer)
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With the resources available in the forum, check the (AC?) signal from the ring gear sensor and compare with another member's similarly setup 300D. Does the IP have an RIV port? I recall a member, maybe mach4, fashioned a tach or at least an rpm signal driven by the RIV lug. Sixto 83 300SD |
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