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Old 02-28-2016, 06:10 PM
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What's the big deal with alumium wheels?

I discovered today that m 240D has aluminum wheels. What's the big deal with them? Are they supposed to offer some advantage over the regular steel ones? I really can't see the point myself, though it does make changing tires a lot easier.

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Old 02-28-2016, 06:12 PM
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They are lighter, ergo will allow for after acceleration. On a 240D you need every ounce or weight savings you can get.
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Old 02-28-2016, 06:51 PM
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Aluminum wheels reduce unsprung weight, or the inertia of the moving mass (wheel end). This will have no measurable change on acceleration nor braking on smooth pavement as it is not significant in the weight of the car, but it is significant in allowing the wheel to follow bumps in the road better, which translates to more traction for cornering and braking on rough pavement. There is also some improvement in heat dissipation from the brakes, but a 240D isn't exactly going to doing a lot of acceleration/braking/acceleration/braking cycling that will benefit from slightly improved brake cooling (not with stock power LOL).

So for handling on rough pavement the reduced mass is the key.
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Babymog, Excellent answer.
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Thanks, but the real answer is that not everybody with a 240D has them. That makes them extra cool!
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Old 02-28-2016, 07:38 PM
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They also pass for steel wheels when you're checking out at the pick and pull yards.
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Old 02-28-2016, 08:09 PM
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Aluminum wheels reduce unsprung weight, or the inertia of the moving mass (wheel end). This will have no measurable change on acceleration nor braking on smooth pavement as it is not significant in the weight of the car, but it is significant in allowing the wheel to follow bumps in the road better, which translates to more traction for cornering and braking on rough pavement. There is also some improvement in heat dissipation from the brakes, but a 240D isn't exactly going to doing a lot of acceleration/braking/acceleration/braking cycling that will benefit from slightly improved brake cooling (not with stock power LOL).

So for handling on rough pavement the reduced mass is the key.
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Aluminum wheels reduce unsprung weight, or the inertia of the moving mass (wheel end)
to expand on babymog's excellent response, increasing the ratio of the sprung to unsprung weight is a specific goal for tuning of running gear. with the help of some numbers from our friend Stretch, i determined that this swap increased my ratio from 6.0 to 6.8. when i first made the swap i did think the wheels were dancing on the pavement a bit more ably. now i don't remember how it felt before, but there is a theoretical basis for making the mod.
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So it's supposed to feel better when driving? Frankly mine feels rather crappy. Of course that could be just my wore out suspension.

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Less unsprung weight improves ride noticeably too. It'll also help with acceleration and deceleration but that would be tough to notice.
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So it's supposed to feel better when driving? Frankly mine feels rather crappy. Of course that could be just my wore out suspension.

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The aluminum wheel is about 1/2 of what the steel wheel weighs.

Aluminum about 9.5 lbs
Steel around 18 lbs.

Give or take, been a while since I weighed them.

240D has the 5.5 inch wide wheel while the 300D used the 6 inch wide wheel.

The SL Pagoda guys are always looking for these wheels.

On E-bay these things go for a good price.


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Old 02-29-2016, 10:42 PM
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Aluminum wheels reduce unsprung weight, or the inertia of the moving mass (wheel end). This will have no measurable change on acceleration nor braking on smooth pavement as it is not significant in the weight of the car, but it is significant in allowing the wheel to follow bumps in the road better, which translates to more traction for cornering and braking on rough pavement. There is also some improvement in heat dissipation from the brakes, but a 240D isn't exactly going to doing a lot of acceleration/braking/acceleration/braking cycling that will benefit from slightly improved brake cooling (not with stock power LOL).

So for handling on rough pavement the reduced mass is the key.
The inertia has to have an effect on braking. Lots of people who run dubs note a measurable increase in braking distance. It might take a 240D to notice the effect on acceleration

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Old 03-01-2016, 06:17 AM
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The 240 feels best and most lively with the light wheels. Big heavy wheels really load a car down...especially noticable with low powered cars like a 240. With the light wheels and correct factory sized tires a 240 rides buttery and handles nicely.
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Old 03-01-2016, 07:18 AM
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Big deal?

There's no big deal they're just lush - that's all!

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