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What's the big deal with alumium wheels?
I discovered today that m 240D has aluminum wheels. What's the big deal with them? Are they supposed to offer some advantage over the regular steel ones? I really can't see the point myself, though it does make changing tires a lot easier.
- Peter.
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2021 Chevrolet Spark Formerly... 2000 GMC Sonoma 1981 240D 4spd stick. 347000 miles. Deceased Feb 14 2021 2002 Kia Rio. Worst crap on four wheels 1981 240D 4spd stick. 389000 miles. 1984 123 200 1979 116 280S 1972 Cadillac Sedan DeVille 1971 108 280S |
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They are lighter, ergo will allow for after acceleration. On a 240D you need every ounce or weight savings you can get.
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Aluminum wheels reduce unsprung weight, or the inertia of the moving mass (wheel end). This will have no measurable change on acceleration nor braking on smooth pavement as it is not significant in the weight of the car, but it is significant in allowing the wheel to follow bumps in the road better, which translates to more traction for cornering and braking on rough pavement. There is also some improvement in heat dissipation from the brakes, but a 240D isn't exactly going to doing a lot of acceleration/braking/acceleration/braking cycling that will benefit from slightly improved brake cooling (not with stock power LOL).
So for handling on rough pavement the reduced mass is the key.
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Babymog, Excellent answer.
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1980 240d , chain elongation, cam marks reference: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?threadid=10414 http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/305365-9-degrees-chain-stretch.html evap fin cleaning: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=156207&highlight=evaporator A/C thread http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/297462-c-recommendations-mb-vehicles.html |
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Thanks, but the real answer is that not everybody with a 240D has them. That makes them extra cool!
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They also pass for steel wheels when you're checking out at the pick and pull yards.
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That's really all that there is to it. |
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to expand on babymog's excellent response, increasing the ratio of the sprung to unsprung weight is a specific goal for tuning of running gear. with the help of some numbers from our friend Stretch, i determined that this swap increased my ratio from 6.0 to 6.8. when i first made the swap i did think the wheels were dancing on the pavement a bit more ably. now i don't remember how it felt before, but there is a theoretical basis for making the mod.
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So it's supposed to feel better when driving? Frankly mine feels rather crappy. Of course that could be just my wore out suspension.
- Peter.
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2021 Chevrolet Spark Formerly... 2000 GMC Sonoma 1981 240D 4spd stick. 347000 miles. Deceased Feb 14 2021 2002 Kia Rio. Worst crap on four wheels 1981 240D 4spd stick. 389000 miles. 1984 123 200 1979 116 280S 1972 Cadillac Sedan DeVille 1971 108 280S |
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Less unsprung weight improves ride noticeably too. It'll also help with acceleration and deceleration but that would be tough to notice.
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Steel wheels make a slow car slower.
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The aluminum wheel is about 1/2 of what the steel wheel weighs.
Aluminum about 9.5 lbs Steel around 18 lbs. Give or take, been a while since I weighed them. 240D has the 5.5 inch wide wheel while the 300D used the 6 inch wide wheel. The SL Pagoda guys are always looking for these wheels. On E-bay these things go for a good price. Charlie
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there were three HP ratings on the OM616... 1) Not much power 2) Even less power 3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast. 80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works |
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The 240 feels best and most lively with the light wheels. Big heavy wheels really load a car down...especially noticable with low powered cars like a 240. With the light wheels and correct factory sized tires a 240 rides buttery and handles nicely.
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Big deal?
There's no big deal they're just lush - that's all!
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