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Old 03-20-2016, 11:03 PM
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Heater control

Is there a member that rebuilds the heater control box, more than just re-solder?

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Old 03-21-2016, 01:26 PM
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Maybe contact James Dean, he works on them and other electronics..


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Old 03-21-2016, 02:56 PM
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There are 3 boxes in the automatic climate control system. One is the push-button box in the dash, which you probably refer to. I think it consists of just buttons, relays for the vacuum vent control valves, and a "user request wheel for temperature setpoint". The "brain" and "blower speed relays" boxes are above the glove compartment. The system also has the temperature sensor (bottom of dash top) and "mono-valve" (water servo-valve in engine bay on firewall).

Describe your problem because the push-button box may be the least likely culprit.
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Old 03-22-2016, 01:26 PM
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There are 3 boxes in the automatic climate control system. One is the push-button box in the dash, which you probably refer to. I think it consists of just buttons, relays for the vacuum vent control valves, and a "user request wheel for temperature setpoint". The "brain" and "blower speed relays" boxes are above the glove compartment. The system also has the temperature sensor (bottom of dash top) and "mono-valve" (water servo-valve in engine bay on firewall).

Describe your problem because the push-button box may be the least likely culprit.
Thanks for all that info. .
There is 12+ to one side of the mono valve but no ground to the other side coming from the control. The valve is open by default all the time.
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Old 03-22-2016, 02:55 PM
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So is your problem no heat or heat all the time?

The pushbutton controller applies a ground to stop flow through the monovalve such as when cool air from air conditioning is desired.

It also applies a pulsed ground for controlling the amount of heat.
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Old 03-22-2016, 03:31 PM
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You can find a schematic in this post:
www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/366940-w123-auto-manual-climate-control-swap-wiring-help.html

It is hard to follow what many of the symbols mean, so I get lost in the schematic. But, it appears (as post #5 says) that if you click the "desired temperature" knob in the max blue "cool" position, that the mono-valve should get full 12 V, meaning "no hot water flow". You can verify at the valve w/ a multimeter. If you still get hot air blowing, the mono-valve innards need replacing, which is easy but not cheap (~$70). There is a rubber diaphragm that often fails.

When in regulating mode, I think the mono-valve is commanded by the box "electronic switching unit for temperature control", which is above the glovebox and labeled "TemperatureRegular". But, that signal still routes thru the push-button box so cold solder joints there could still cripple it.

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