Im looking at a 1985 300TD wagon like my own which is a 1985. Asking $850, but says it needs to be towed, away. I may be able to do that.

If the rust isnt too bad I would almost buy it solely to replace my rear hatch as its so rusted But of course all the other parts I need would quickly pay off... (Front grille & Lenses, rear lights assemblies etc...

Would the hatch be interchangeable? And what parts wouldnt be interchangable if any?

Thanks.

There is not much that is different...pretty sure not any body parts.

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

Everything is compatible.

You are comparing an 83 123 Wagon to a 85 123 Wagon ?
I would think most of the body parts would interchange..

I think the differences came in 85 to the engine and transmission... Tom's answer surprises me and I may be wrong...

edit.. ok I misread Tom's post.... I agree that most everything should fit...

but I do think some emission stuff on some 85's is different...

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1980 240d ,

chain elongation, cam marks reference:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?threadid=10414

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/305365-9-degrees-chain-stretch.html

evap fin cleaning:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=156207&highlight=evaporator

A/C thread

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/297462-c-recommendations-mb-vehicles.html

For sure differential gear ratio is different and so is speedometer between the 83 and 85.

82 - 84 3:07

85 2:88

The Speedometer is geared to the Differential.

The 85 Kali Kar has the Trap Oxidizer, Starter has the Solenoid on the bottom.
Down Pipe is longer.
Turbo sits higher, has the Arv Valve as does the 84.
Intake and Exhaust Manifolds are different also.
Air Filter assembly sits behind the R/F headlight. That element cost about $50.
Hole in end of crank is 34mm instead of 35mm like all the other 617 and 616 engines.
Stall speed of the Torque Convertor is different as well as the Transmission.
There is no drain tube from the air filter to the Upper Pan. The fitting in the pan is not there.

85 Federal is the same as the 82 - 84 yr models as far as I know.

Everything else on the wagons should be the same.
MB Tex pattern may be different.


Charlie

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works

Charlie, that is great info.... sounds like the voice of experience....the hard earned kind..

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1980 240d ,

chain elongation, cam marks reference:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?threadid=10414

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/305365-9-degrees-chain-stretch.html

evap fin cleaning:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=156207&highlight=evaporator

A/C thread

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/297462-c-recommendations-mb-vehicles.html

Has anyone seen trans gear ratios by number? I'd also like to know what trans was mated with what rear end ratios in what year.

My 84SD speedo reads low and it would be nice to correct it. I think that the 84 & 85 SDs have an electronic speedo but different trans ratios. I can find out the rear end ratios by rotating 1 wheel and counting drive shaft revolutions but don't know what was originally installed in the 98.

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85SD 240K & stopped counting painted, putting bac together. 84SD 180,000. sold to a neighbor and member here but I forget his handle. The 84 is much improved from when I had it. 85TD beginning to repair to DD status. Lots of stuff to do.

all turbodiesel 123's have the 3.07 ratio, except the 85 which got the 2.88

same years for the SD's but include the older 78-81 in the turbodiesel mix on SD's... 3.07

as for body panels... everything is the same on the wagons. glass too! interior parts change between years, so keep an eye on that. materials, headrest styles, etc...

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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!

All the w126`s, Gas Diesel have the electric spedo`s.

You can find the Differential ratio by climbing under the car and read it off
the left lower corner. It is stamped in the metal.


I stole this from Deliveryvalve. send all royalties to him.


Charlie

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works