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The Gears 08-17-2016 02:43 AM

Click, Click, Click
 
That is what I hear when I turn the key to start.
Is there a relay between the key and the starter selniod ?
I can start by turning on the key to the run position, do the glow, then use my jumper switch at the starter terminal on the pas.fender.
So the starter is ok.
Ramed the trani selector back and forth to see if the lock out was the problem, no help there. Is there an easy way to short across the lock out switch without getting under the car. At 81 that is no longer fun.

rocky raccoon 08-17-2016 06:08 AM

Classic battery problem. If new(er) check cables at battery end first.

SD Blue 08-17-2016 08:24 AM

When you jumped the terminals on the fender, you bypassed the starter lockout .

It sounds like either the starter lockout switch or shifter linkage bushings. Hopefully it will be the bushings as they are very inexpensive and easy to replace.

tyl604 08-17-2016 08:31 AM

If it is the shifter bushings, there will be no click. Nothing will happen; it will just be dead. Then you can wiggle the gear shift sometimes and it will start like new.

Maybe starter solenoid?

SD Blue 08-17-2016 09:00 AM

You're correct. Using my phone, I missed that in the title.

funola 08-17-2016 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocky raccoon (Post 3627752)
Classic battery problem. If new(er) check cables at battery end first.

Please explain how a battery make clicking sounds. I've never heard of that before.

SD Blue 08-17-2016 10:06 AM

One of the intermittent starting problems I had was a loose chassis to engine ground strap. Sometimes it would click several times and then after trying several things to troubleshoot the problem, it would fire right up. It appeared to be a starter solenoid problem. Changed two starters out before finding the problem, with help from this forum.

funola 08-17-2016 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SD Blue (Post 3627796)
One of the intermittent starting problems I had was a loose chassis to engine ground strap. Sometimes it would click several times and then after trying several things to troubleshoot the problem, it would fire right up. It appeared to be a starter solenoid problem. Changed two starters out before finding the problem, with help from this forum.

Yeah but the part that was emitting the click click sound was not the ground strap, but rather the starter solenoid not getting sufficient current due to the bad ground strap?

The Gears 08-17-2016 11:26 AM

Thanks for the info guys. The ground strap is OK because it will start fine
from the jumper on the fender junction. The click sound comes from a higher area. It sounds like a relay engaging. Thanks for ruling out the trani
lockout.

funola 08-17-2016 12:03 PM

No relay in the starter circuit. Key switch go right to starter solenoid.

The Gears 08-18-2016 07:31 PM

I have a wiring diagram of the starter system. Easy to follow.
The problem is no power FROM the lock out sw.
There is power getting TO the lock out as the backup lights come on when
in reverse with the key on.
If the lock out switch is removed is it serviceable?
Are they easy to remove?
I have my jumper coming up under the hood and into the driver side window.
Works great. turn on the key, glo and press the button.
Hope it doesn't rain.

The Gears 08-19-2016 05:19 PM

LOGIC: If the backup lights go on with the key on, selector in reverse, It is not logical that the park and reverse contacts won't function. I can see one not working but not both.
Is there a relay to do with an old anti theft setup that is in the circuit?
Very strange that one day it is OK and the next it won't start without the car being touched.

jt20 08-19-2016 06:43 PM

might want to check for an alarm system installed on the car.

the sound may have been disabled, but the sensors are still active.

you might find it easily by pulling the driver's lower panel under the steering wheel. If you you find a box with harness going into it that you are unsure of, that might be it. Run the part number. Just yank the harness out if you find an alarm control box down there.

Walter K 08-20-2016 06:04 PM

I have the same problem with my 84 300TD. Some times it will start from the key, and some times I have to jump it on the box on the right fender. I also get a loud click when I turn the key and it does not start. I have noticed that it will start more reliably when cold then when hot.

In my case it is not the selector bushings, and I don't think it is the neutral safety switch. The fact that the car starts when jumped suggests it is not the starter either.

W.

Stretch 08-20-2016 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocky raccoon (Post 3627752)
Classic battery problem. If new(er) check cables at battery end first.

X2

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Gears (Post 3628765)
LOGIC: If the backup lights go on with the key on, selector in reverse, It is not logical that the park and reverse contacts won't function. I can see one not working but not both.
Is there a relay to do with an old anti theft setup that is in the circuit?
Very strange that one day it is OK and the next it won't start without the car being touched.

Check your battery - it sounds like it is struggling / not providing enough power.

The classic clicking of the starter solenoid (but no spinning of the starter motor) as mentioned above points to this.

The reason why not enough "juice" is getting to the starter could also be due to dirty contacts.

Taking it one step further: Over on BW there was a fairly recent fad of "change your battery cables as they tend to corrode inside"...


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