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Problem found and fixed!
Key on, battery light comes on nice and bright. Right after the engine starts all three lights (battery, brake wear, brake) go off just as they should. Here are my nice functioning lights: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1480489818 |
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Here is what all I ended up doing:
- removed the big aluminum box that is in the way of accessing the underside of the fuse box; there is a single 10mm bolt that holds it in place. - removed the nut holding the fuse box in the engine compartment - loosened or cut some of the plastic ziplock-like ties that attach the cables to parts of the frame - disconnected the wires at fuse #12, first the "fused" ones, then I was able to access the terminal where blue/red meets with two red/black. Here is the picture of that terminal: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1480490241 Notice how the blue/red wire strands are just loose there? It turns out that those are the only strands that are exposed, and they were not soldered to anything. They were merely touching the rest of the connector. When I disassembled and de-soldered the connector, the fact that the blue/red wire wasnt soldered became even more evident: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1480490266 See the solder on the fat red/black and the skinny red/black wires but none on the red/blue: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1480490716 Here is the reassembled terminal: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1480490793 I was then able to test the continuity between the reassembled terminal and pin 6 of the instrument cluster connector, and measured minimal resistance. I then reassembled everything and tested. Yay! THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL YOUR HELP especially funola and Diseasel300! |
Congratulations! Few things are more rewarding than fixing an irritating electrical gremlin! I know exactly the feeling you had, I felt it when I was able to turn on my headlights and not blow 3 fuses in my fusebox! I chased that damn fault for 3 months before I found it.
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Good it's finally fixed! Does it look like that terminal was made that way from the factory? Did it have heat shrink over it? Somebody botched that connection real bad. The blue/red wire, besides having only 3 strands, should have been crimped and soldered with all strands instead of just laying there with 3 strands. I am sure the charge indicator worked when it left the factory. Over time, oxidation of the terminal and the copper strands made that connection to have higher resistance (not capacitance) to the point the charge indicator stopped working.
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The crimping job looked good and the solder was neat and factory looking. It looked like the blue/red wire somehow didn't make it all the way into the "crimping/soldering machine" and remained outside of the terminal. It may have been the crimping device that then mauled most of the strands away from it, but I'm just speculating now... I made sure I heated the $&@$ out of it with my solder gun, then put my own heat shrink insulation over it. |
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Is your cluster 15 pin or 14? Did you have battery problems with the charge indicator broken? |
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I did not have battery problems but Looking at the schematic, the battery wear indicator must have provided the current needed to excite the alternator... ? |
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If anyone wants to test these theories: 1. Install a cig lighter volt meter, remove the charge indicator lamp, go for a drive and observe the voltages. Should be between 13 V to 14.4 V if it is charging. 2. Remove the brake wear, brake warning and low fuel bulbs and check voltages again. If it still charges after 1 & 2, the lamps are not necessary for (your) alternator to charge the battery. Their main function is to provide warnings for faults in the alternator, low fuel, parking brake engagement, brake wear, brake fluid levels. |
I think I will try that. I can't take it for a drive really yet because all my door lock strikers are shot and the new ones won't be here till Monday though...
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It'd be interesting to see the results. What happened to your door strikers? I thought nothing ever goes wrong with them.
When you have the cluster out, take and post pics of both sides the module with the circular connector. |
Based on the schematic, there should be enough contribution from the warning module circuit and Brake Wear indicator to help flash the alternator even if the main warning light is out. If the engine is revved, I'd expect the residual voltage to be high enough to self-excite anyway regardless if the idiot lights are working. The teaser circuit is just there to "flash" the field and get the alternator working immediately at idle and to warn the driver if the alternator quits producing.
The door strikers can have issues. Particularly if the rubber bit goes missing on the leading edge, sometimes the door will just refuse to latch or require a stunningly hard slam to get it to stay closed. I had one wear like this on the SDL and replacing the striker solved the issue. |
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I would say with near certainty that the wiring you repaired was NOT factory. There's absolutely no need for solder, as long as the connector is properly crimped. Soldered connectors are usually a tell-tale indicator of shade tree "improvements". |
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I started looking at the rear passenger door, poking around that plastic piece on the striker that makes the lock "lock", and broke that. So I have three strikes that are broken. All are missing the plastic pieces that help "flip" the lock into locked position. Some people have reported that their doors work without them. Once of mine does, two don't. I ordered four new strikers and going to replace them all. That plastic gets brittle and breaks off after 30 years. |
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