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door drains?
Hope everyone had a nice Xmas!
Just finished replacing driver door seal and window scraper. Its a coupe, so the mirror bracket has to be adjusted with the window. Afterwards noticed that there is approx. 2mm gap between window scraper and mirror bracket. Potentially water could get in there. Are there drains in the coupe doors? I didn't notice any. Just want to make sure that any small amount of water that gets in has a passage to get out also. Thanks,
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No drains in doors.
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So how does one mitigate potential water seepage into doors?
Or is this not a potential problem area? I would imagine that water will eventually make its way in regardless of seal condition... Thanks
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I'd be surprised if there were no door drains but I didn't look at either of mine before they went to PnP so I can't say for sure. Every car I've ever worked with had a drain or at least a method to vent the inside of the doors so that there was some air flow so any water that got in there could evaporate. 70s/80s GM cars, for example, had a vent in the door part of the door jambs that allowed air to escape when closing the doors and also allowed air to vent in and out. Seems like they also had some drain slots though I don't remember that for sure (it's been a while!).
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Not sure about the 123, but the 126 has drains. They look like slots in the seams. Look up under the door in the pinch-weld area and see if you see some slots in there. If you do, you have drains.
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Of course there are drains.
They do however get plugged sometimes. Quite often with age the wax preservative dries up and breaks off and covers the slot shaped holes. |
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If there were no drain how would water get out?
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1981 240D Four on the floor, Orient Red over Parchment, bought with 154,000 but it's a daily driver and up to 180,000 miles, mostly original paint and all original interior. |
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ok,
so its normal for water to get in there? I would imagine that there is no way to keep the inside of the door completely dry... hence the moisture barrier. just wanted confirmation, since my scraper replacement is less than perfect. thanks for the insight
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Although I don't remember looking at the bottom of my coupe, I have never seen any door in a car which lacks drains.
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As the owner of a W123 coupe, I can assure you there are no drain holes in the bottom of the doors. Drain holes could be drilled in the bottom of the doors, just be sure to coat the holes with some sort of rust prevention and make sure the holes are cleaned periodically. W123 doors are known to rust out.
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No car made yet with no drain holes in door bottoms .Look in the bottom they run along the side of the rubber sealing strip...Get on the floor and look up to see them No holes in the door they would just fill up to the handle... I clean my slots out with a teapot spout cleaning brush.
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Agreed, there has to be drain holes in every car door manufactured. Water does get between the window and weatherstrip, it is impossible to seal out every drop. However, the last coupe I had and sold had the entire bottom of the door rusted out where the weatherstrip was. I am sure it was because of the drains clogged up. I have other coupes that I can look at, and I am sure I will see some kind of drains.....Rich
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so, how are you guys clearing the seams for drainage.
I had the door panel off yesterday and cleared some debris, but due to tight quarters couldn't effectively clean the area. maybe scrape with a brush along the underside of the door adjacent to the seal? thanks,
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plus, I'm feeling less bummed about my less than stellar window scraper install.
hopefully we can come to a definitive conclusion about the door drainage problem, especially on coupes. thanks!
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I went and looked at my coupe, and there are two slots in front, and two in the rear. They are outboard of the door seal so they drain outside, not in. A zip tie works great for poking out the debris from underneath, but I am sure the best way to clean them is to remove the door panel and vacuum inside the bottom of the door.
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