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Old 04-23-2017, 05:53 PM
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E 300 D newbie questions

Still new to this 124 thing so please excuse me I'm still feeling my way around it. Couple of questions:

The auto trans is leaking from the sump and some one has had a go with silicon sealer. I understand that they are prone to distortion. I can see a couple listed for the W124 here on Pelican, one for $73 and one for $150 ish but my E300D is not called up in the basic model selection, just calls up E320, 420, 500, are they all the same regardless of the W124 model

Second issue, a friend who has had a few old mercs (but not a 124) recommended replacing the rad by way of preventative maintenance as they are prone to failure due to sudden failure of the trans cooler which apparently lies within the Rad. Is that correct for E300D of 1994 vintage? And do they go suddenly or do you get plenty of warning before damaging the box seriously

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Old 04-23-2017, 06:01 PM
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The trans pan's aren't very susceptible to warping - actually, I've NEVER had one distorted. 15+ W124's owned, countless worked on (do it for a living), various other's with 722's and I've never come across a warped pan. Damaged yes, warped no. Unless there was an outside force destroying it, of course. If someone went at it with silicone, sure seems like they must've been too cheap to buy the $10 pan gasket. A filter/gasket combo goes for $20-ish, so make it a point to service it and clear out as much of that sillycone as you can. Should you want to buy a new one, the pan is the same on your car as any of the others. They all share the same sump.

As for the rad - they're far more likely to break at the hose neck in the top driver side. Old style don't have metal reinforced necks and they tend to break off when the clamps are overtightened. Any radiator can fail the way you described, very unlikely, albeit possible, on these cars. I've been witness to it happening once...on a Chevy.
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Old 04-23-2017, 06:10 PM
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i have just replaced mine preventatively.
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Old 04-24-2017, 06:58 AM
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Thanks for putting that to rest Allen. I'll leave the rad well alone and concentrate on changing the gasket and filter on the trans..
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Old 04-24-2017, 11:16 AM
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Transmission pans - the torque for the bolts is REALLY low, like 7 Nm, and exceeding that will indeed warp the pan. Check the dealer price as well - you may be pleasantly surprised.
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Old 04-24-2017, 11:52 AM
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The pan gaskets dry out over time, then crack and leak. Unless the pan has been distorted by a road encounter, try replacing the gasket first.
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Old 04-24-2017, 04:37 PM
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Don't replace the radiator unless there's something wrong. Never have I heard of the trans cooler just exploding? Your friend must have not worked on these cars that much. Unless some kind of maintenance was deterred, or something else internally went wrong there's no way that will just go bad without warning. The pan isn't prone to distortion unless someone hit something in the road. Just like everyone else said, nothing to worry about. Replace the gasket and call it a day.
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Old 05-02-2017, 03:52 PM
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Still new to this 124 thing so please excuse me I'm still feeling my way around it. Couple of questions:

The auto trans is leaking from the sump and some one has had a go with silicon sealer. I understand that they are prone to distortion. I can see a couple listed for the W124 here on Pelican, one for $73 and one for $150 ish but my E300D is not called up in the basic model selection, just calls up E320, 420, 500, are they all the same regardless of the W124 model

Second issue, a friend who has had a few old mercs (but not a 124) recommended replacing the rad by way of preventative maintenance as they are prone to failure due to sudden failure of the trans cooler which apparently lies within the Rad. Is that correct for E300D of 1994 vintage? And do they go suddenly or do you get plenty of warning before damaging the box seriously

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Old 05-02-2017, 10:27 PM
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IIRC you need a transmission pan for a 722.4 transmission. The cars you listed use a 722.3 transmission. Try a pan for/from a 190D/E, 260E/300E 2.6 or 2.8, C-class through '96...

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Old 05-02-2017, 11:31 PM
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There was a stretch in the early 2000's where Mercedes was having a problem with leaky trans coolers on Valeo radiators. The old Behr radiators can go for decades without trouble, as long as the coolant is changed from time to time.

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