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Old 06-21-2017, 01:32 PM
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Oil analysis on my Old Lady

Been wanting to do an oil analysis on my 84 300SD for 7 years now. Finally got around to doing it after 7,100 miles on the oil.

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Old 06-21-2017, 01:57 PM
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How much do they charge for this analysis?

I just googled it - $28.
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Old 06-21-2017, 02:18 PM
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$28 You can go online and they will send you the collection kit for free - take a sample and throw a check or CC into the package.
One thing they haven't changed over the year is to take the time and write a little narrative. See little of that personal interaction these days....sigh.
Blackstone Labs is a good investment.

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Nice.
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Old 06-21-2017, 02:54 PM
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Nice.
I'm quite pleased that the $750 car I bought 7 years ago is still running well. I'm tickled pink that I should be just ducky running 9,000 miles on my current oil. That Rotella T6 makes for an expensive oil change.
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Old 06-21-2017, 04:26 PM
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I've been sticking with ~5k intervals on my 617 due to concerns about soot loading. Looks like your insolubles number is fine even at 7100, I should invest in a test myself. Save myself some $$ with extended OCI.

Thanks for posting, great info.
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the measurement of insolubles is important. Modern diesel oil like Mobil 1 TDT
have formulations that keep soot in suspension at higher levels. This makes insolubles not as big an issue as with standard dino oil. Thus one of several reasons allowing longer OCI. I believe the older diesels 240 and nonturbo 300D have higher soot production. When you combine Low sulfur fuel and
full synthetic diesel oil soot is really no longer much of a concern.

I will relate a recent disaster of a close friend. He drives an older Freight Liner
with a Cummins. It had 1.2 million on the original bottom end. He drove up to
the Canadian border in January. He had 20,000 miles on the oil. It dropped to -30 F that night. He idled his truck all night to keep from freezing. Apparently the oil hit a certain threshold of soot and he woke up with the bottom end knocking. He finished off one of main crank bearings. So the moral is beware of high mile diesel with extended OCI in arctic weather. Idle apparently creates more soot during combustion.
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Old 06-23-2017, 11:59 AM
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I will relate a recent disaster of a close friend. He drives an older Freight Liner
with a Cummins. It had 1.2 million on the original bottom end. He drove up to
the Canadian border in January. He had 20,000 miles on the oil. It dropped to -30 F that night. He idled his truck all night to keep from freezing. Apparently the oil hit a certain threshold of soot and he woke up with the bottom end knocking. He finished off one of main crank bearings. So the moral is beware of high mile diesel with extended OCI in arctic weather. Idle apparently creates more soot during combustion.
I would bet because it was so cold outside, the engine suffered through incomplete combustion and diesel fuel diluted the oil. Diesel engines need to be at operating temperatures for complete combustion. Idling does not burn enough fuel to get an engine to proper temperatures, it's when you put a load on the engine that it happens.
So when you do an extended idle, especially at that extreme cold temperature like that, there is a good chance the engine cool off substantially and cause inefficiencies in the combustion process.
Combined this with the fact the bottom end has this high mileage and the most likely the piston rings are not sealing as well. The fuel just washed down cylinders and diluted the oil to the point it could not lubricate very well. I really don't think soot loading was an issue here.


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Blackstone sampled my 24V Cummins running Rotella T6 & said I could increase mileage. I think they said to try 13,000 mi up from 11,000.

Synthetic makes the difference between 1 glow and easy starts or multiple glows and hard starts when it gets cold out on the SD. The Cummins starts easy but the IP is electronic and more of a pita.
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I would bet because it was so cold outside, the engine suffered through incomplete combustion and diesel fuel diluted the oil. .
This is called " Wet Stacking " or " Slobbering ". Diesels pump a lot of air through the cylinders at idle, this cools the combustion chamber.

Soot is so fine so it causes more of a long term wear issue than rapid failure. I don't think that diesel fuel diluted oil ( reduced lubrication quality ) would cause a bearing to fail on it's own at idle. I do see idle oil pressures being reduced and coupled with increased bearing clearances due to wear contributing to the failure.

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