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Old 04-12-2018, 11:36 PM
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Seeking Beru Glow Plugs for '83 300d Turbo OM617

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So I have an 83 300d turbo, chassis w123. Can someone provide me the correct part number for the Beru glow plugs?

Would the correct Beru plugs be the GV, the GE/GN, or the GD style?

Here are the three part numbers I have for Beru thus far:

1.
Part Number: W0133-1631189
Notes: Type GE/GN

2.
Part Number: W0133-1715016
Notes: Type GE/GN
Features:
Super quick start glow plugs in new, slim shape
Extremely short pre-heating time: from 2 seconds
Reliable starting (even at -30C)
Can be used for post-heating, as a result environmentally friendly: up to 40% less pollutant emissions during the warm up phase
No more cold start knocking
Quieter engine running
Protects the engine during starting

3.
Part Number: W0133-1633192
Notes: Type GV
Product Remark: GV
Features:
Sheathed glow plug in 2-coil technology
Reliable cold starting
Short pre-heating time (5-7 seconds depending on vehicle!)


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Going onto Beru's US distributor's website provided me a glow plug with a loop at the tip, so that's not what I'm going for in my car. Also, older threads on this site show the Beru's being sold right here on Peach Parts, but the links are broken now.


I finally decided to go ahead and ream the glow plug chambers, and that no matter what the condition of the plugs I remove, I'm going to change them. I read some stuff on here about how Monarks aren't great and Bosch's are okay but they are a crapshoot as to where they were manufactured, and I prefer stuff made in Germany. I recently bought a Bosch alternator regulator, which was made in China--I promptly returned them. Never had a problem with Bosch anything in the past, but heard good things about the Beru, so here I am asking about the part numbers


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Old 04-13-2018, 04:33 PM
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Gents,

So I have an 83 300d turbo, chassis w123. Can someone provide me the correct part number for the Beru glow plugs?

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Sev, wanted to reply last night, sorry got delayed.

Found the box, stamped:
GN858
0 100 226 234

However, checking the website, seems not a current number and list GD 382, 0 100 101 308. Here is where I ordered them from: Beru Parts.com Their email is sales@kingsborne.com, so maybe check see if the part was superseded. Consider I too had no part numbers, just ordered what the website said and no issues.


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I finally decided to go ahead and ream the glow plug chambers, and that no matter what the condition of the plugs I remove, I'm going to change them. I read some stuff on here about how Monarks aren't great and Bosch's are okay but they are a crapshoot as to where they were manufactured, and I prefer stuff made in Germany. I recently bought a Bosch alternator regulator, which was made in China--I promptly returned them. Never had a problem with Bosch anything in the past, but heard good things about the Beru, so here I am asking about the part numbers


Thanks,

Sev
I too bought Beru as Tram one year earlier had put in Bosch and from day one had the glow light not staying on long enough and by nine months, was using the block heater to be able to start.

I heard of Beru lasting over 30 years, when three to four is what is normally expected. The Beru were still working when the wagon was totaled several years later.

Come in a carton of ten, wish had known as not usual and then have a set when in 20 or so years no longer available.

Hope this helps and you become a convert to Beru.
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Old 04-13-2018, 10:40 PM
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All of the Bosch Glow Plugs I have bought were made in France and were less then $10 each.

I had previously had Monaks and one of those died with in one Year and I live in Southren California where glowing a long time is not needed.

Previous to the Monarks I had Autolites and after only 6 months of use the tips on 2 of those swelled making them difficult to get out.

How long Glow Plugs last is largely dependent on if everything is happening within specs during combustion. In particular Injectors that dribble or spray Fuel onto or too close to the Glow Plugs shorten their life.

There is also the previously mentioned carbon build up that was reamed out.
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Old 04-14-2018, 11:58 AM
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Sev, wanted to reply last night, sorry got delayed.

Found the box, stamped:
GN858
0 100 226 234

However, checking the website, seems not a current number and list GD 382, 0 100 101 308. Here is where I ordered them from: Beru Parts.com Their email is sales@kingsborne.com, so maybe check see if the part was superseded. Consider I too had no part numbers, just ordered what the website said and no issues.




I too bought Beru as Tram one year earlier had put in Bosch and from day one had the glow light not staying on long enough and by nine months, was using the block heater to be able to start.

I heard of Beru lasting over 30 years, when three to four is what is normally expected. The Beru were still working when the wagon was totaled several years later.

Come in a carton of ten, wish had known as not usual and then have a set when in 20 or so years no longer available.

Hope this helps and you become a convert to Beru.
Actually I gotta be honest I'm not about to just buy what the website says, that's a rookie mistake. I verify and confirm part numbers, then I make my purchase. This way I measure twice and buy once. Anyone whose ever bought and received parts while a car is partially apart and eager to finish the job only to find they have wrong parts knows what I'm talking about. I do appreciate the helpful spirit though. If I can't quickly find the Beru p/n and a source that carries them, I will be going for the Bosch ones and cross my fingers they aren't made in China and do a bench test on them prior to install
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Old 04-14-2018, 12:01 PM
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All of the Bosch Glow Plugs I have bought were made in France and were less then $10 each.

I had previously had Monaks and one of those died with in one Year and I live in Southren California where glowing a long time is not needed.

Previous to the Monarks I had Autolites and after only 6 months of use the tips on 2 of those swelled making them difficult to get out.

How long Glow Plugs last is largely dependent on if everything is happening within specs during combustion. In particular Injectors that dribble or spray Fuel onto or too close to the Glow Plugs shorten their life.

There is also the previously mentioned carbon build up that was reamed out.
I actually read one of your posts when I found a search about your Autolite plugs that enlarged. Crazy! I'm also from Southren Cali. Maybe I should save myself the time and effort, remove my old plugs, use a bench grinder with a wire wheel attachment and clean up my existing plugs, bench test them and put them back in. I just can't justify not replacing a maintenance item that's this important to a car's function, especially since I've owned the car for almost a decade now and haven't replaced them, and god only knows when the last time was that they were replaced

By the way quick question: if my injectors weep lightly, and the fuel gets onto the opening of the glow plugs, does the fuel make it's way into that chamber and negatively affect operation? Always wondered about that
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I actually read one of your posts when I found a search about your Autolite plugs that enlarged. Crazy! I'm also from Southren Cali. Maybe I should save myself the time and effort, remove my old plugs, use a bench grinder with a wire wheel attachment and clean up my existing plugs, bench test them and put them back in. I just can't justify not replacing a maintenance item that's this important to a car's function, especially since I've owned the car for almost a decade now and haven't replaced them, and god only knows when the last time was that they were replaced

By the way quick question: if my injectors weep lightly, and the fuel gets onto the opening of the glow plugs, does the fuel make it's way into that chamber and negatively affect operation? Always wondered about that
Some of the stuff I post is because other people will also be reading your post.
You joined in Apr 2007 and I joined in Sep 2007 so have also had my Car since 2007. Since that time I might have replace 1 or 2 of the Bosch Plugs but I cannot remember exactly.
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I don't think the Beru plugs for 60x turbo engines are available in the US. At least, they weren't last time I looked. I'm currently using Bosch.
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I found my old catalog, this should help. FYI, GN plugs are afterglow, GV's are preglow only.
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The Beru GV603's are available from somewhere....my SDL had a set in it when I redid the head a couple years ago, though they could have easily been 10+ years old at that point. 3 were burned out and all replaced with Bosch. I haven't had a problem with the Bosch. Be aware that the "afterglow" plugs are shorter than the "preglow" plugs and designed for use with the later "oblique" prechambers.
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I would like to provide a quick update. I purchased a set of Beru glow plugs which I had to source from Lithuania of all places.

The part numbers were as follows:

0 100 221 107
GV 603

Out of five of these, only one of them was brass colored, the others were stainless color. They all had the same part numbers on them, and all were made in France

The glow plugs were all the same diameter until the last millimeter of the tip. Whereas the Bosch plugs which I removed in order to replace, narrowed-out in the last 5-6mm of the tip. The old Bosch ones I removed were 0 250 201 039

I believe they are all compatible

I purchased the Mercedes Source reamer kit, which included the generic reamer, which fit into a 12mm socket wrench. I only needed the socket wrench for a few of the glow plug holes, but I believe I could have gotten away without them. They did come in handy.

After reaming all five of the holes, not a lot of soot came out of each hole. I did use grease as the video suggested to 'grab' all of the soot, and I screwed the reamer all the way into each hole, except on two holes, were there was a gap of about 1-2mm between the flat part of the reamer's head and the outer wall of the cylinder head. I didn't want to force the reamer in any further.

Anyway, the glow plugs are all reamed and new Beru ones are installed

The only problem is, is that I wasn't able to start the car yet, because I did this job as part of a larger job, namely doing a valve adjustment, combined with a new valve cover gasket. I decided to do all these at the same time.

As I was removing the valve cover, the #2 fuel injector's mesh hose was too short, so I had to pull it off. Unfortunately I grabbed the hose right at the upper tip of the nozzle with a needle nose, and as I pulled it off, the tip came off with the mesh hose. So now I have to go to the junkyard and buy another 135 bar injector in order to see how well my work was. Which is sad, because the injector that I broke the upper section out of, was 'Remanufactured for MB' as the rubber sleeve on it says. However, unlike other Bosch injectors, this one didn't say where it was made. No Made in Germany, no Made in France (or worse, Made in India, which is what I fear they are trying to 'cover up' with the sleeve). I think I can get away with just taking an upper section off of another 135bar injector and swapping it onto mine. That way I keep the new looking nozzle at the base of it.

All the valves were very tight, with zero gap to put the feeler gauge in there. This is what was resulting in my lack of compression, and no power during certain ranges of RPM. I am hoping that my valve adjustment solved my problem. Anyway, that's my little story right there

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