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swap 1983 380 SEC to 300 CD turbo
Information needed, NEW Member to do engine swap, 123 300 CD turbo in to 126 380 SEC
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? Why thumbs down ? .
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captmd SWAP
so I can find my post, I know swap has been done. No reply from You Tube articles which have swap. I have both cars complete . will use Marine engineer to do swap. Need to know which eng. mounts to which transmission to use . My 380 SEC , parked for 4 month, started idling good , pushed gas to speed up , thud lock up? timing chain , cams lifters look in place. Thanks fo response Mickey
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It may be useful for you to review a number of posts/threads started by Clemson88 on the subject of converting a gas 126 to diesel power. It is more involved than it seems at first glance. |
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Thank you, Yes MB are very detailed. Ill check out Clemson 88
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Greg 2012 S350 BlueTEC 4Matic 2007 ML 320 CDI 2007 Leisure Travel Serenity 2006 Sprinter 432k 2005 E320 CDI 1998 SLK230 (teal) 1998 SLK230 (silver) 1996 E300D 99k, 30k on WVO Previous: 1983 240D, on WVO 1982 300D, on WVO 1983 300CD, on WVO 1986 300SDL 237k, 25k on WVO (Deerslayer) 1991 350SDL 249k, 56k on WVO - Retired to a car spa in Phoenix 1983 380 SEC w/603 diesel, 8k on WVO 1996 E300D 351k, 177k on WVO |
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Thank you GregMN, I believe a 603 is transition. will SD motor mounts be needed? will they bolt in to baise on frame of 380? I'm in south Texas. Mr. Vera of Corpus does not think it will work. wish I could change his mind.
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You got me... I just photo shopped it and then used it as a daily driver for a couple of years.... A 603 block has motor mount attachment points for a W124 and a W126 body. If the donor was a W126, then the mounts are already in the correct location. If the donor was a W124, then the mounts need to be moved to the other mounting points. Take a day to pull the motor and transmission, as a unit, out of the diesel donor. Label sensor wires as you take them off. Take another day to pull the gas motor and transmission out of the 380. Swap the radiator with the diesel engine. Swap the exhaust system. Put the diesel engine and transmission in the 380. Start it up and drive it off the lot.... There are lots of little fiddly bits to tidy up, but I have started the car on the third day and driven it.
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Greg 2012 S350 BlueTEC 4Matic 2007 ML 320 CDI 2007 Leisure Travel Serenity 2006 Sprinter 432k 2005 E320 CDI 1998 SLK230 (teal) 1998 SLK230 (silver) 1996 E300D 99k, 30k on WVO Previous: 1983 240D, on WVO 1982 300D, on WVO 1983 300CD, on WVO 1986 300SDL 237k, 25k on WVO (Deerslayer) 1991 350SDL 249k, 56k on WVO - Retired to a car spa in Phoenix 1983 380 SEC w/603 diesel, 8k on WVO 1996 E300D 351k, 177k on WVO |
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The first generation W126 had the same OM617 as a W123 300CD. It should not be difficult to swap it over if you have access to a first gen W126 for parts. You will need a W126 oil filter stand and oil pressure sender. The CD radiator and oil cooler should work in the SEC. You will also need a trans with an electronic speedo (from a first gen W126-D). If you are clever, you can make the cable driven speedo work in the W126 instrument cluster, but that may be more work than sourcing a first gen W126 trans. Of course the easiest swap would be the OM603 as suggested, but you already have the W123 as a donor. I hope the CD donor is not a complete running car. It would be more valuable as a driver than a donor. If it is a rust bucket, well then have at it (just my opinion though)......Rich
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Thanks for info, will use a Marine engineer from supply boats, we are use to swaps that don't SWAP. I'm 78 he 62 might take us 3 days. now I know it can be done ill ber mor exact om Part an model numbers. Mickey
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There's a 603 from an SDL nearby my work for sale. Should be pretty straightforward.
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Onus probandi incumbit ei qui dicit, non ei qui negat I recondition w123/w126/w124/w140/r107/r129/ steering boxes! 1984 300D "Elsa" odo reset 6/2011 147k 1983 300TD "Mitzi" ~268k OM603 powered 1995 E300 "Adelheid" 262k [Sold] |
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Both MB are 01/83 built. 300CD was sideswiped on right side by 18 wheeler 10 years ago . Engine never stop running with Left side caved in 10 inches at A pillar, windshield did not pop out. once home drove it around with right ft. wheel at 45% angle.
126 380 SEC parked for 4 month, started idled good, increased gas locked up with thud. Starter will not turn engine. Cams ,lifters, push rods , timing chains in place. All suggestions appreciated, MICKEY |
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Push rods!? Troll rods. |
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