the writing is on the wall, plainly enough..climate change is on everybody’s mind, and fingers are being pointed. Thoughts?

believe me climate change is good,the earth will take care of CO2,by growing further north trees.When to much oxygen is made,animals get massive to they won't die from to much oxygen.With huge amount of oxygen natural ice age comes back.Weight on the crust causes more volcano's CO2 and the world warms up again.
The problem is no diesel,or gasoline engines,it's oil.We can make cleaner fuels.

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In the Netherlands I expect they will be forced off the road before 2020.

Lots of them are already banned from entering several large cities.

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1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone
1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!
1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing

I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior



Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!

The sooner the better.

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Whoa. That is unbelievable that they can ban your old car off the road.

I guess I’m spoiled in the US. I feel “outlawed” means no new diesels being sold or harsh regulations limiting numbers which is indeed happening in California.

But taking my car from me...I’m feeling a Charlton Heston moment coming on.

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82 240D stick shift 335k miles (SOLD)
82 300SD 300k miles
85 300D Turbodiesel 170k miles

Warning:- This thread has the potential of being moved into the off topic area!


Legislation is done differently in different parts of the world.


The way it is working here in Holland is that vehicle number plate recognition software is used to issue fines / taxation charges for drivers who enter into pollution restricted zones in diesel vehicles (whether they knew they should have been there or not). Life is getting to be more and more expensive for owners of diesel engined vehicles. The dutch way seems to be to price people off the road rather than issuing an all out ban. (For now)



At the modern diesels that have been shown to be more polluting than some of the older models are being allowed into the low pollution areas.

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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver
1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone
1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!
1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing

I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior



Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!

Crazy how diesels literally built and powered the industrialized world and know everyone wants them banned.

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1998 Ford Escort ZX2 5 speed - 279,000 miles My Daily

1992 Mercedes 300D 2.5 202,000 - Pure junk
2000 Mercedes E320 Black - 136,000 miles - Needs repair

Don't forget to grease the screw and threads on the spring compressor.

well..not everyone

The market will dictate their demise before a full ban. EVs are the primary focus of almost every automaker now. A few such as Mazda are still doing some neat work with ICEs. Nissan's variable compression engines also come to mind.

That said, OTR trucks are a way off from using anything but diesel at scale.

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Current stable:
- 2004 Mazda RALLYWANKEL
- 2007 Saturn sky redline
- 2004 Explorer...under surgery.

Past: 135i, GTI, 300E, 300SD, 300SD, Stealth

I'll say it, the left wants them banned. The left likes to ban, restrict, and regulate everything really.

Ban Diesels
Ban guns
Ban older cars

Ban political trolls likes Alex Jones
Twitter does black Twitter purge (the immature NSFW but hilarious side of Twitter)
Twitter banned ANY kind of conservative opinions
Censoring Nazi Germany content in WW2 based video games
Etc

Well, in the meantime I'll hoard as many Mercedes Diesels as possible.

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1998 Ford Escort ZX2 5 speed - 279,000 miles My Daily

1992 Mercedes 300D 2.5 202,000 - Pure junk
2000 Mercedes E320 Black - 136,000 miles - Needs repair

Don't forget to grease the screw and threads on the spring compressor.

Oh you mean like coal, steam and horses before that? Yeah, cry me a river.

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We need machines that take CO2 as fuel then emit breathable oxygen and diamonds.

Sixto
98 E320s sedan and wagon
02 C320 wagon

Diesels get bad press. Although their visible particulate emissions are worse, the actual emission of harmful oxidation gasses is less than those of gasoline engines.

C'mon Botnst with some numbers and actual learned comment.

i read a story about that where governments pushed to get particulate emissions down and it actually exacerbated the greenhouse effect because there was less particulate to reflect solar radiation and more was able to penetrate the atmosphere.
i remember talking to my friend in when i lived in New Mexico about us opening up a shop together.....he didn't want to because he predicted the demise of the car, due to it's harmful environmental impact, would be forthcoming......that was 1993.
i'm sure it will happen but i doubt in the next 30 years

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James 4:8

"...let us put aside the blindness of mind of those who can conceive of nothing higher than what is known through the senses"
-Saint Gregory Palamas, ---Discourse on the Holy Transfiguration of Our Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ


Centrally located in North East Central Pa.

Diesel emits more NOx than petrol when combusted.

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I recondition w123/w126/w124/w140/r107/r129/ steering boxes!


1984 300D "Elsa" odo reset 6/2011 147k
1983 300TD "Mitzi" ~268k OM603 powered
1995 E300 "Adelheid" 262k [Sold]