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Old 06-08-2019, 09:50 AM
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Again do not think you can switch the left to the right because of the two extra pins. However you can switch the right to the left and then see if the left side stops working; that would prove that switch bad.

Guess you could go to a junkyard and pull a right switch.

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Old 06-08-2019, 11:07 AM
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Just trying to narrow down the problem. If the switches that work on the left,
work on the right,then I can just purchase the actual switches. If nothing
works, then I purchase the switches and the base they fit inside of..
The switches on the old cars like that *ARE* the housing. They aren't sold separately like the 1986+ cars. That long strip with the 2 switches in it *IS* the switch you'll buy. The wiring on the back and the plugs the wire attaches to is part of the car's wiring harness. You'll unclip the old switch from the console wood, throw it in the trash, clip the new one in, plug the wires in, and go have a cup of coffee or other favorite beverage for a job well done. If the windows still don't work, the problem is in the window regulator. You already know the switch is bad, pieces are broken. Replace it.
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I did not know that, it wasn't mentioned to me, Tyl and I started messaging, like a conversation. I believe it's over, but just don't check the thread if you don't want to
or it seems petty. I'm new to repairing Mercedes, and don't know a whole lot, so
questions are there...
Lots of people read these threads, including people not on these forums. This is a public forum for anyone to see. Lots of newbies and inexperienced people come here for help. You diagnosed the switch was bad many posts ago, yet the conversation and fiddling continued over a cheap part to replace. Some of these threads can get heavy in theories and thinking out loud, but troubleshooting a window switch is not a place for that. You diagnosed it was bad, replace it, see if your problem goes away. All the power for the windows goes through the front switch first, if it is bad (which is the most common failure), the rear switch may or may not work either. It depends on how it failed. Inserting popcorn kernels in the switch probably isn't going to restore functionality. Having been through dozens of these switches over the years, about 50% of them are not repairable due to something breaking inside or just being worn out.
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Old 06-08-2019, 09:07 PM
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Wow, Dieasel300,
Most of the people on this board are Very Nice and Helpful, Even if my questions
don't make sense to you, seem repetitive or stupid.
If I ask something it's because I'm confused or want to make sure of something.
I don't have a concern Over the amount of money for a switch, I just
like to see how things work, for my own information. Really, just ignore this thread
if it irritates you.
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Old 06-08-2019, 11:15 PM
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Wow, Dieasel300, Most of the people on this board are Very Nice and Helpful
You've gotten lots of help from multiple people that you've chosen to ignore. I certainly don't intend to be rude, I just get straight to the point. If you're reading into things being mean or condescending, that's your doing.

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Really, just ignore this thread if it irritates you.
That's now how the Internet works. Anybody who is registered to post on this forum is free to post their reply, whether or not it suits your expectations is arbitrary.
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Old 06-08-2019, 11:48 PM
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Take a chill pill....seriously, go pick on someone else.
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Old 06-09-2019, 09:52 AM
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Post Window Switch 'fun' (?)

? So ;

Do the passenger side windows work yet ? .

I've had very good luck taking the rockers out and cleaning all the accumulated crud out (beware, sometimes they're *really* grotty inside), polishing the contact rockers and pins then re assembling and re installing .

I work over some light colored cloth, old towels etc. as those tiny ball bearings, coil springs and contact strips love to bounce off and get lost .

Remember to that any and all fuses that do not have yellow metal strips are bad and will cause you trouble sooner if not later , cheap to replace .

Save the anger and frustration for when you're fooling with the disassembled switch .
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Old 06-09-2019, 04:57 PM
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Thanks natel...
yes, drivers side work!!...to satisfy my curiously, I just took the 2 toggle switches from
the "working" side and put into the other side, just to see if that works, I assume, if
that works, I just need to replace the 2 toggle switches, If not, I replace the whole thing, if that makes sense. I'm curious. Thanks
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Old 06-09-2019, 05:10 PM
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Once again, the right side switch assembly is one unit that combines two switches. They cannot be separated. You need to purchase a right side window switch that fits in your console. After market switches commonly do not have an internal light. Genuine MBZ switches do.
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Old 06-12-2019, 04:03 AM
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BWhitmore...I know. I was talking about replacing only the switches.
They are all the same. I know there is a specific left (with the extra two prongs),
and the right side.
Are you saying that the toggle switches themselves can't be interchanged?
because they are exactly the same.
It can be confusing in terms of dialogue, some say switches and they mean the whole
switch assemby, and sometimes someone will mean literally one toggle switch.
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Old 06-12-2019, 09:58 AM
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At the risk of getting told off by the OP again....in your case the "window switch" is that long assembly with both of the right hand side switches in it. You cannot buy the individual switches separately for your car. You must buy the "assembly" with both switches in it.
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Old 06-12-2019, 10:09 AM
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The individual toggle switches are not available separately. The switch for the right side combines an individual switch for the right front window and a switch for the right rear which fits into the console. The same for the left, however the switch for the left also includes a lock out feature that if desired, prevents anyone seated in the back seat, such as children, from operating the rear windows.
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Old 06-12-2019, 09:58 PM
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Perfect. I know the part(s) are sold here, but I'm just looking around.
For this part, do I want OEM parts or aftermarket, does it matter?...
My original toggle switches had round white dots on them, I don't see
those, but that is not important. Thanks
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Old 06-12-2019, 10:32 PM
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Post Window Switches

Originally those white circles had black stickers on them indicating windows.....

I've taken apart and serviced both OEM and replacement types, I prefer the OEM but unless you own and use the car as much as us nutters do there's no real need .
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Old 06-12-2019, 11:19 PM
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One last try :

Nope ~ I'm apparently banned from posting pictures any more .

I found a nice one of two serviced and ready to go switches but no matter what, I can no longer up load anything to this site .
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Old 06-13-2019, 03:12 AM
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Pictures

VWNate...
Banned for pictures...that's not nice, I know, sexy mercedes pictures.
You could always I think, send them to me when you click my name,
via private message or email. If you want any pictures posted,
I could do that for you.

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