Mercedes Bluetec Settlement - Page 4 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

t walgamuth · #46 05-28-2021, 08:00 AM

Mine is done and no ill effects from it have shown up. I have not filled out the form to get my hush money yet.

okto · #47 06-28-2021, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pawoSD

Cars with a lot less miles just get warranty for 4 years or to 120k whichever comes first.

Other way round. Whichever is the GREATER of 10y/120kmi or 4y/48kmi.

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48k miles worth of essentially full emissions/engine warranty

No engine warranty, unforch. The extended warranty covers only the replaced emission system components.

barry12345 · #48 06-29-2021, 09:53 AM

Partial copy of Volkswagon arrangement.A lot missing. Basically service light comes on is covered by Volkswagon. Although I could see an argument here as the transmission is not covered. If it threw a code. The engine and all sensors are plus the polution system.

The only bonus to us was the clause in the warranty could land up in court. Customer must be considered right. Obviously VoIkswagon or the people that influenced their warranty do not want you near their third party customer service. .

Customer service getting involved is pretty much the last thing you want.I can see a lot of small court claims if the trouble light comes on in relation to the transmission.

My experience is if a dealer will not deal with a warranty issue. Customer service reps are using a list of refusals to the extreme. Proven in court locally.

Do not buy a Volkswagon product from a dealer that is known to refer your issues to customer service. Do other owners a favor and burn that dealership down.

Oops, I did not say that. Although it beats the frustation. You will likely experience otherwise.

There is little that brings me close to profanity yet their customer service is one that does. I minute past warranty you will not get it. Customer brush off is their function. Unless the dealer is fair. Fairly difficult to work on their diesel engines as well. Time wise.

Service bills tend to be brutal. Almost need dealer familiarity with many issues. I rate their product a deep pockets type. There are far better out there for overall cost per mile of ownership.

pawoSD · #49 06-29-2021, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by okto

Other way round. Whichever is the GREATER of 10y/120kmi or 4y/48kmi.

No engine warranty, unforch. The extended warranty covers only the replaced emission system components.

The engine is indeed covered essentially in its entirety by the warranty. It lists everything down to the turbo, engine internals, head, valvetrain, injection, and timing chain.

archham · #50 09-21-2021, 04:31 PM

Wondering if anyone has received the payout yet? Seems like that is taking a long time. Guess the lawyers want some interest income too? Car has been fine for the last few months- no noticeable changes.

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pawoSD · #51 09-21-2021, 09:13 PM

Nothing yet here, but I only completed/submitted mine about 30 days ago. Vehicle is operating fine. If I had to say one thing I noticed is that the adblue injector seems to fire slightly more often, but I guess how long adblue tank fill lasts will define whether that is actually true.

Bob338 · #52 09-22-2021, 07:57 AM

They said up front that settlement would not be until November.

jay_bob · #53 04-08-2022, 10:21 AM

Update

They FINALLY released the AEM for the 2011-2013 E350 Bluetecs yesterday!

They are ordering the parts at the dealer and letting me know when it's all in so I can leave it, expect this to take at least a week given how backed up they get at this dealer...

We got our 2014 ML350 updated in April 2021, and we finally got our check for that one in early February 2022.

And yes, the settlements are considered taxable income, you will get a 1099-MISC for this and you got to report it.

Details on the warranty extension. At first I saw the 10 year cap and thought we would be expiring in 2023 due to the OIS dates of our cars. I re-read the logic carefully and realized the warranty period shall be the 'greater of' case 1 OR case 2, so it's 4/48 additional from the date of modification in our cases.

Warranty Period: The warranty period for the “Extended Modification Warranty” shall be the greater of:
• 10 years from the date of initial sale or 120,000 miles on the odometer, whichever occurs first; OR
• 4 years or 48,000 miles from the date on which the emission modification was performed, whichever occurs first

The emission control system warranty shall cover the following parts or systems:
• DOC,
• DPF,
• SCR catalyst,
• DEF injector,
• DEF injector controller,
• DEF supply module,
• DEF pump,
• Temperature sensor unit,
• Exhaust temperature sensor,
• PM sensor,
• Lambda sensor for Emission Modification Categories 1–5,
• NOx sensors,
• Fuel injectors,
• Air intake throttle,
• EGR valve,
• EGR duct,
• EGR cooler (including bypass-control),
• Intake manifold/charge air distributor,
• EGR temperature sensor,
• Turbocharger, including VGT actuator,
3
• OBD System: the cost of any OBD Diagnostic Scan for malfunctions that trigger the MIL, regardless of whether the malfunction is attributable to a part that is covered under the Extended Modification Warranty, as well as the cost of troubleshooting to determine the reason for the malfunction, but only if the malfunction is determined to be attributable to a part that is covered under the Extended Modification Warranty,
• Cylinder head assembly components: camshaft, valves, springs, valve spring keepers, valve seats, cam bearing caps, and manifold studs,
• Engine timing chain,
• Intake manifold pressure sensor,
• and Coolant thermostat, where replaced as part of the Approved Emission Modification.

engatwork · #54 04-08-2022, 07:52 PM

wow

Wonder why it gets new timing chain? Hopefully it is not a single row chain!

jay_bob · #55 04-11-2022, 07:13 AM

No they are not swapping the chain as part of the AEM. This is just the extended warranty coverage.

Every variant has a different list of thing that get changed based on what Bosch, Daimler, and the US DOJ agreed to.

642 has a double row chain.

engatwork · #56 04-11-2022, 09:56 AM

Good, thanks. I've got a friend with c class, 4 cylinder under 100k with broken chain. Parts contact at MB telling me they selling a lot of engines in these single row application.

barry12345 · #57 04-11-2022, 04:00 PM

This company could no longer build a reliable 4 cylinder diesel engine? If Mercedes does not make the actual cause public Nor to dealers. How do you know what to change for certain? Sounds like perhaps inferior quality chains?

If you own one of these engines. Sounds like a very early change out as preventative maintenance.

They should be catching this stuff before things go into production. I was thinking that this type of thing can generate a class action. Even cheap brands seem to do much better.

By now their company engineers have examined all the parts from failures and probably are all too aware of the exact cause. With no callbacks. Some German car companies are a little too full of themselves for their own good.

You as a company do not have to fear liability issues if you do the right thing.

engatwork · #58 04-11-2022, 05:20 PM

I did read where it is real easy to roll a new chain in.

123boy · #59 04-11-2022, 06:24 PM

Don't forget, MB has completely eliminated the R&D Dept. for internal combustion engines. They are done with fossil fuels for automobile propulsion and production. For them, the future is "electric". Guess they plan on "ridin it out" with what they've already developed. Not sure how this will impact their world famous automobile racing division.
IMHO, they couldn't have made a worse decision. Although, considering how the "leaders" of Germany are currently behaving, it really should surprise no one.