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Old 06-04-2021, 01:55 PM
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My Logic is I bought an air filter that happens to be washable from a well know Maker
This is red herring. "Well known Maker" is nothing but a large manufacturer. That there exists products from name brand manufacturers that you would not purchase because of low quality proves this to be a fallacious argument.


You have also criticized other companies for producing unsatisfactory products. Is STP not a "well known Maker" or do you think its possible that companies produce things that make them money regardless of how well they sell?

https://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=3915785

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and I have posted a site where someone said they did more then one oil analysis to see if a washable filter by the same maker showed abnormal silica in the oil and the answer was no abnormal silica (you know science).
I've combed through your old threads and found nothing of the sort.

Furthermore, what in the world does "abnormal silica" in the oil have to do with air filters?
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You have supplied zero to show that what you opinion is correct. You are again bearing false witness.

People can and will use what they want to on their individual vehicles.
Here you go. Seems they said the exact same thing I did.

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Oiled Filters

In most aftermarket intake kits, companies supply their product with an oiled filter. Oiled filters flow more air through their media because they are constructed from a more open cotton material that is coated with a thin layer of oil.

Generally, high-performance dry filters can catch up to 99% of the incoming contaminants due to the smaller micron size of the filter media, while oiled filters catch about 98% of what passes through – a minute difference, but a difference none-the-less.


The oiled filter material relies on the tackiness of the oil to catch contaminants while the more open media allows a higher flow rate. The oil acts as a sticky trap for incoming air contaminants, providing an important layer of protection to keep the air free of debris. These filters typically come pre-oiled with a specific amount so they can drop right in without the user having to do anything. Oiled filters are what you see in most race applications (excluding off-road). They aren’t always conical as pictured above. Many companies offer a direct drop in replacement for the stock air filter, and often, there is a slight bump in performance.

Another benefit is that these filters can last a lot longer than their dry counterparts. Oiled filters have the advantage of being completely washable and reusable, so you don’t have to keep buying filters once they become too dirty. All you must do is follow the instructions to clean the filter and you’re all set!


However, with greater airflow from these filters comes great responsibility. Oiled filters must be regularly cleaned, maintained and properly oiled, or else they can become detrimental to performance. You may have also heard that oiled filters can damage your mass airflow sensor (MAF). Let’s nip this right in the bud. Usually the only way for something like this to happen is if you over-oil your filter when re-applying the oil. If there is too much oil on the filter, some of it can get sucked in through the cotton gauze and damage the MAF sensor. This is where you must be careful and follow the instructions on how to clean your oiled filter.
https://www.mishimoto.com/engineering/2016/11/filtering-right-stuff-dry-vs-oiled-air-filters/

To add to the discussion why don't we bring in the HVAC washable filters that exist? They have better documentation and have to pass a different set of standards than any crap you might put in your engine bay.

I really liked this line.
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Maintenance. Washable filters require regular visits to the furnace room to remove and clean thoroughly. A disposable furnace filter might require the same trip to the basement but it's an easier process. Simply pull out the old air filter, toss in the trash, and slide in a new one.

Disposable air filters are more effective at trapping small particles. Washable air filters are typically only good at protecting from large particles like dust. They do not effectively filter out pet dander, bacteria, viruses or smoke, especially when they're not meticulously maintained.

Washable air filters only offer a MERV rating between 1 and 4. This is fairly low considering the MERV ratings for other air filters go as high as 16.
https://filterbuy.com/the-problem-with-washable-air-filters/
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