My Island Purchased with Sticker Money.... - Page 6 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

dbgrate · #76 12-14-2002, 04:17 PM

Thanks,Alex;the stickers just arrived.In hindsight,patience is the armor that never rusts,as the saying went.

Kyle Blackmore · #77 12-15-2002, 02:00 PM

So at this rate my stickers should find their way to the Canadian west coast sometime between Christmas and New Years,

.Guess I should just smoke a fattie (sp?)and mellow out till then,lol.

LightMan · #78 12-16-2002, 11:17 AM

rofl kyle. Still waiting on my stickers. Peyton, there weren't that many people or stickers to call this a logistical nightmare....sheesh you sound like a scared secretary hiding under her desk, lol...

YES it's good and upright of alex to be following through with sending the stickers...YES people had a right to be a little curious/upset when he promised to send them one date and didn't until a month or so later. Big deal, if anyone's really that upset NOW that he's back in contact etc, pull your panties out of your ***. If Alex made a little profit on the deal, thats great, he should for the effort...especially considering that 2 bux for a sticker is cheap. Have you ever tried to buy a sticker at a motorcycle/jetski shop etc? They are $5-$10....remember all those old no fear stickers, they were somewhere in that range too. Alex provided a good service, just took his sweet ass time

.....now off to work, thinking about all of you out there blazing the thai pai, and missing those college moments.

need2speed · #79 12-16-2002, 01:56 PM

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Originally posted by LightMan
LOL. Sounds like canada is on the right track. Woohoo to canada for doing something first, I wish the US would follow this role reversal and follow

The Canadian government has published two studies in the past 6 months, one on de-criminalization of cannabis and another on a medical approach to illegal drug use. These studies were heavily based on the experiences of European countries that have reduced or eliminated penalities for personal drug use.

Unfortunatlely, the 2002 Annual Report of the European Monitoring Center for Drugs and Drug Addiction has identified these trends:
- most EU countries reported an increase in cannabis use of 5-10% overall and up to 18% amoung young adults,
- multiple drug use increased, with cannabis often used in combination with opiates such as heroin,
- the number of people in treatment for addiction has increased since 2000.

The Canadian studies say we should take the billions spent on police and courts in fighting drug use and give it to hospitals and doctors. Wouldn't it be ironic/tragic if we still saw an increase in drug use?

The EU report indicated drug use was greatest among the unemployed and those with low education. Nothing in the Canadian studies advocates spending money to prevent addictions through greater employment and higher education.

LightMan · #80 12-16-2002, 07:23 PM

need2speed you may be barking at the wrong crowd with 'it would be a shame if drug use went up".....we all want it to be legalized so it CAN go up, duh! Its not like alcohol use didn't go up when prohibition was removed... Tons of people WANT to use it, but don't for fear of the law and penalties... The canadian government had to do a study to realize that if it were legal use would go up? Thats fairly obvious.

One thing they don't study is how many less kids will be huffing hair spray bottles , whip cream nitrous containers(whip-its)and paint thinner to get high(all far more physically damaging) because they will have pot more readily available... Or the people you see on 'americas wildest police videos' who run away from the cops and endanger tons of ppls lives because they're scared to get caught with an amount of pot... I agree with txbill on the gateway drug argument being total bs. I knew tons of ppl in college who just smoked pot and drank beer, but never would touch the white stuff or anything else... You try what you WANT to try, period. Pot doesn't make cocaine look like candy....lol...although you may want some real candy!!!

:p

need2speed · #81 12-16-2002, 07:55 PM

Now its my turn to wonder what you'all are thinkin...
No government that has decriminalized pot has supported increased consumption. If thats your platform, you'd probably get elected in a few states! :p

My point was that the cost of dealing with those addicted to drugs...pot, alcohol, pills or heroin....will be there regardless of legality. So far the European solution has been to pump the money into the medical system instead of the root causes like education and employment.

I don't see the improvement, thats all.

LightMan · #82 12-16-2002, 08:05 PM

I wasn't saying the government had to approve of the increased consumption, just should expect it, its obvious.

If you're wondering, my guess is that what 'we're all thinkin' is that it sure would be nice to be able to smoke and not get arrested....

(amsterdam rocks!) I'm not sure any of us were really concerned with the government spending part of the issue need2speed...

blackmercedes · #83 12-16-2002, 10:58 PM

The pot-debate has me on the fence. I worry about increased consumption among those that shouldn't be doing it at all. I worry that we spend so much time and effort (police) on chasing people for a lousy joint. Makes no sense to me.

I spend lots of time with inner-city families and individuals, many that have substance abuse problems. MJ is not their normal drug of choice. That usually falls to Booze, Cigs, and things like anti-freeze, Lysol and glue.

The War on Drugs is a battle being waged against our own citizens. We don't need stiffer sentences. we don't need mopre police and bigger guns for police.

We need to treat it as a disease, and cure it. Addicition is the drug problem. Dean is right. Despair is the #1 reason for high levels of substance abuse. People with nothing and no hope. Let's cure that...

LightMan · #84 12-16-2002, 11:31 PM

Shoot, i have to go check the mailbox!! I'm excited. One will go on my jetski to confuse other riders, lol...not really but its fun to put random stickers on it, as its going to be repainted soon anyway, so for the meantime i dont give a ****....

I think mj is much more of a soft drug than the others available...and should be treated like alcohol. I think that they should medically treat the people who have let the drug take over them, like alcoholics or potheads who can't do anything but.... and decriminalize or legalize for ppl over 18. I wouldn't be opposed to increasing penalities for those under 18 who are caught with pot or alcohol, to keep them on the right track to school, etc... Crack , huffing, and the other various hard drugs should be illegal IMO though, they just have too many problems attached to them, and downsides...a little mj now and then is no different than a few beers now and then....thats my take...

Kyle Blackmore · #85 12-17-2002, 01:07 AM

Oh yeah , almost forgot , Christmas came early , got my stickers today , way cool man , so where's this island were going to buy , is it , like , warm there , cause all this rain here is getting me down , oh yeah , did I tell you I got my stickers today.......zzzzzzz

unkl300d · #86 12-17-2002, 01:11 AM

Thanks Alex, my stickers arrived today.
They are very nice.
Who cares how long they took.
No prob.
I recall that you offered to design and have them made.

Not something I can do.

Merit on your side!!

ajb · #87 12-17-2002, 05:33 AM

Some people have suggested that illegal drug use is an addiction\health problem versus a criminal issue.

Aivars

Richard Eldridge · #88 12-17-2002, 06:37 AM

EXCESSIVE drug use, of illegal OR illegal drugs are a health problem, and should not be treated as a legal problem. When you need a plumber, one does not cal the electrician, and when you need a doctor, one should not call a policeman.

Not all drugs classified as "narcotics" are the same, in fact, no two of them are the same, and neither are their effects on the body.

Pot is more psychologically addictive than physically so, and occasional use for recreational purposes are hardly an issue more than other stuff people do for fun.

The current view is that id you feel BAD and want to feel BETTER, then you need a prescription.

If you feel okay and want to feel BETTER, then any substance you might use to feel better is immoral and should be punished.

LightMan · #89 12-17-2002, 09:49 AM

lol kyle...just for the record, my screen name is due to the fact i'm in the residential decorative lighting business, not lighting up the cheeba

Got my stickers yesterday as well, they are nice.

need2speed · #90 12-17-2002, 12:39 PM

This is an enjoyable discussion.

Imagine if big tobacco can diversify into cannabis...fields and fields of the stuff

I can see "MJ Lights" and "Cravin Eh" being sold at the corner store. The Marlboro Man won't be on a horse, he'll be lounging at the beach.

Being a health nut, I'd still be concerned about sucking anything but sweet oxygen into my lungs, though!