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Old 10-22-2003, 06:12 PM
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Catalyst removal?????????

Would there be any benifit to remove the catylitic converters on my 300SD?? I saw a major improvement in mileage when i removed the one on my 95 ford diesel. Any thoughts???

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Old 10-22-2003, 06:40 PM
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I don't think you have a cat unless it's a CA model. You have two mufflers though, can't say if it would help to remove them. Most people just say it will be louder, I don't know how many of them have actually removed the mufflers and checked mileage and noise.
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Old 10-22-2003, 06:49 PM
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I talked my girlfriend into letting me remove the rear muffler from her 83 300D turbo. It made it a little bit louder(mostly at idle) but nothing extreme (i actually like it!!). It affected the fuel mileage much more than I imagined it would, it increased it by 3mpg. I then put a straight pipe on it and a small chrome tip out to where the stock pipe was by the bumper. Turned out looking great, sounding great, and increasing fuel mileage and I would do it again if it was me.
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Old 10-22-2003, 07:14 PM
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I run a straight pipe on my TD. Since my odometer does not work I have no way to judge milage. Some might say it is too loud, I LOVE IT! Now, I have it disconnected at the downturn after the turbo but I am planning to have a custom exhaust made to bring it to the stock location and get the exhaust from out of my passenger window. Most quotes I have got are between $90 and $135 without muffler.
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Old 10-22-2003, 07:35 PM
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These cars don't have catalysts, regardless of whether they're CA version or not. Theoretically, you might gain a few mpg by removing the muffler as that would make the exhaust more free-flowing, but I wouldn't consider 3 mpg worth the effort and increased noise. My car's fuel economy frequently varies 3 mpg from one fuel tank to another and unless you're consistently getting 3 mpg more than before, I wouldn't draw any conclusions.
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Old 10-22-2003, 08:09 PM
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OK, I thought the 2 things on either side of the driveshaft in front of the axle were Converters. There is another muffler behind the axle exiting in 2 chrome tips.
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Old 10-22-2003, 09:02 PM
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If you look at the stickers in the driver's door you should see "Non Catalyst". Also it's a well known fact that diesel cars don't produce hot enough exhaust gases to make a catalyst work. This might not be the case with the very latest models, but it holds true for the older ones.
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Old 10-22-2003, 09:34 PM
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An '84 or earlier 300SD would NOT ever have been equipped with a catalytic convertor.

Removal of the CAT on later MB diesels (up to '95) has been ALMOST undetectable with regard to power or economy unless the CAT was occluded.

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