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do you think diesels will ever make it in sports cars
just wondering if its ever happend sorry its not benz related but its diesel related they have plenty of torque,but I dont know .What about A diesel in A 911 somebody has had to think of the possability.Great mpg great performance how bout that
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I have fantasized occasionally about
my neighbor's brother's '66 912, for which I did an engine overhaul about 18 years ago -- if it every begins to burn oil again, I'd love to see if a VW turbodiesel, laid on its side as they were in the Vanagon Diesels, could fit back there. But the car is getting a bit too rusty to worry about, I'm afraid.
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YES!
In Europe, you can get a C32 CDI AMG with a 6 speed manual transmission and of course, a 3.2L CDI. Too cool!
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If you want a fast diesel, take an OM617, add an alloy head, throw an intercooler into the fray, turn up the IP, adjust the boost, and you can get 230 hp. About the same as the new C30 CDI AMG over in Europe.
That's what Mercedes did back in the '70's. And that setup was considered going into production. On the third generation C111, Mercedes clocked speeds in excess of 200 mph with that diesel. Do a search and you'll find more info on what I mean.
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The 300D coupe is a sports car in the marketing sense.
edit - Doh! I meant 300CD. Sixto 95 S420 87 300SDL Last edited by sixto; 01-23-2004 at 01:05 AM. |
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Get a good 300CD, get an engine from a S400 CDI, swap engines and you will have a sports car and a slow car.
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My little TD Audi has been accused of being sporty -I like to agree. While she's not a tire burner, its a quick rush to the speed limit and beyond. A sport suspension provides a tight responsive control and small turning radius.
I've also seen some sporty Jetta turbo diesels as well. I'd post a pic - but I can 't figure out how to make this thing work. I'll go read the instructions.
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What's keeping someone from importing a CDI? Besides the $$$$$$.
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IMHO, I think that the 2004 VW Jetta GLS TDI is sporty for a diesel. I test drove one last week, and it had great response right off the line, and it is IMO, the sportiest diesel I've ever driven. I've test driven 84, 85, and 87 300Ds, a 87 300SDL, and even the 87 300D and 300SDL seemed slow compared to the TDI to me, although they were faster than the OM617. So I think there are sporty diesels out there.
-Joe
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Those are sporty diesel cars.
This is a diesel sports car. Quote:
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Where does one get this alloy head?
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On an E300. BTW, it also has 4 valves per cylinder and the car comes with an intercooler.
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Rick Miley 2014 Tesla Model S 2018 Tesla Model 3 2017 Nissan LEAF Former MB: 99 E300, 86 190E 2.3, 87 300E, 80 240D, 82 204D Euro Chain Elongation References Last edited by Rick Miley; 01-23-2004 at 01:07 PM. |
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I have been researching diesel performance and estimated roughly the same power output of the 617 with the same mods other than the alloy head. What advantages does the alloy head give in the way of HP? Is there allmost as much gains in just pocket porting/smoothing the factory iron head? Does anyone know of or have any experience in porting/polishing techniques or advantages with diesel engines? I have a spare engine that I wanted to rebuild. I have the intake and intercooler thing pretty much figured out on paper, but wanted to investigate mods in the stroke/piston and cam/head areas for HP gains. Should a performance diesel topic be started? Anyone interested?
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