Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #271  
Old 06-30-2015, 05:56 PM
bigpanda16's Avatar
Bioburner
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 289
Aerokroil penetrant works well too, much better than pb blaster

Reply With Quote
  #272  
Old 06-25-2017, 09:02 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 57
Hey all! 98 e309td here. Was able to get out all my glow plugs except #4.

It turns a little, so be spraying PB Blaster on it every few minutes and tapping it to set up a vibration to hope fully get that stuff down in there.

Well, it finally started turning, although very hard.

Now, the corners are rounded and the socket just spins on it.

I thought of trying to get vice grips in it but it's hard to get in there.

Then I thought of sacrificing a socket by filling it with JB Weld and pushing it over the glowplug, letting it dry and then trying to turn it.

Could use some advice.

Can y'all chime in with suggestions?

Thanks!

Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #273  
Old 06-26-2017, 12:43 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 44
Did you mark the glow plug to be sure that it was actually turning? If not I'm going to assume that rather than it turning, the nut was simply rounding off. Gluing to it is probably your only chance at twisting it out. Most likely it will twist off and then you can go about pulling the remainder of the electrode and drilling the plug out.
Reply With Quote
  #274  
Old 06-26-2017, 12:48 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcreynol View Post
Did you mark the glow plug to be sure that it was actually turning? If not I'm going to assume that rather than it turning, the nut was simply rounding off. Gluing to it is probably your only chance at twisting it out. Most likely it will twist off and then you can go about pulling the remainder of the electrode and drilling the plug out.
Yes it was actually turning. I rounded it off after a few quarter turn mostly for the same reason most bolts round off, I didn't have the socket on well enough. My fault and now I get to pay the penalty

Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #275  
Old 06-26-2017, 07:05 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 311
I vote for the JB Weld, but first be sure to clean the plug so the epoxy can stick well.
Reply With Quote
  #276  
Old 06-26-2017, 07:17 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sbean View Post
I vote for the JB Weld, but first be sure to clean the plug so the epoxy can stick well.
Well, that looks like the plan. That "deep well" Gator Grip I bought won't bite because the nipple on the plug is too long. So, gonna try my method tomorrow after work.

Already sanded the plug and the inside of the socket with 60 grit and wiped em good to give the JB something to stick to.

Running the engine to heat it up was great thinking and it turned a little until the socket slipped again so we will see tomorrow.

Maybe try lining the socket with foil before loading with JB, like one of the suggestions before loading that socket up with JB...😀

Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #277  
Old 06-27-2017, 07:34 AM
Diesel Preferred
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 2,788
No, either JB Weld or foil, don't try to mix them.
__________________
Respectfully,
/s/
M. Dillon
'87 124.193 (300TD) "White Whale", ~392k miles, 3.5l IP fitted
'95 124.131 (E300) "Sapphire", 380k miles
'73 Balboa 20 "Sanctification"
Charleston SC
Reply With Quote
  #278  
Old 06-27-2017, 10:14 AM
#TRUMP2020
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Virginia
Posts: 789
Quote:
Originally Posted by larryloveslala View Post
Yes it was actually turning. I rounded it off after a few quarter turn mostly for the same reason most bolts round off, I didn't have the socket on well enough. My fault and now I get to pay the penalty
There is a special socket available specifically for 606 GP's. It's not too spendy and totally worth it. It has a swivel, and extension, and a captive socket all in one. I've done it both ways, and it's a big improvement faster and easier with the special socket. Not sure if our host stocks it, but samstag and baum do. It looks something like this:
Attached Thumbnails
Finally - Step By Step Glowplug Change - '98-'99 E300!-s-l225.jpg  
__________________
1998 E300 turbodiesel

America's Rights and Freedoms Are Not The Enemy!
Reply With Quote
  #279  
Old 06-27-2017, 06:34 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxbumpo View Post
No, either JB Weld or foil, don't try to mix them.
Lol, I wasn't planning on doing both at the same time

Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #280  
Old 06-27-2017, 07:01 PM
spock505's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Blighty
Posts: 1,388
One more fall back option..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9AO_cDdwS8
__________________
David


1996 Mercedes S124 E300TD - 129k - rolling restoration project -

1998 Mercedes W210 300TD - 118k (assimilated into above vehicle)
Reply With Quote
  #281  
Old 06-30-2017, 08:07 PM
#TRUMP2020
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Virginia
Posts: 789
One problem I recently encountered with 606 gp change is the plastic electrical connectors. They become brittle and break when removing them, and then no longer securely snap onto the new glow plugs.

Thankfully, the plastic portion of this connector is its own part and is easy to replace. Mercedes part number 019-545-54-28 available from Pelican. Current pricing is $2.50 each, very reasonable. I just replaced all of mine. Once you have the new ones in hand, you'll get how they work. It's two pieces that snap together, easy.
__________________
1998 E300 turbodiesel

America's Rights and Freedoms Are Not The Enemy!
Reply With Quote
  #282  
Old 08-17-2017, 07:58 AM
Jakub902's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: North Brunswick, NJ
Posts: 13
Hello everyone. I have been reading the forums on changing the GP and just want to say thanks for all the great advice. Last night I took out all my GP successfully. I guess I got lucky. Only #1 and #5 put up a bit of a fight but nothing serious. I did it with the engine very hot. When it was time to take the IM off I had to use gloves to handle it. I think the hot engine was key in getting the GP out in one piece.
Also my car only has 117k miles and I have no service record of anyone changing them before. The plugs that came out were original Beru.

Today I will clean the IM and put everything back. I see people give two different torque values for the GP 20NM and 27NM. Which one is the correct torque spec for the GP?
__________________
99 E300TD
81 Porsche 911

Last edited by Jakub902; 08-17-2017 at 09:57 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #283  
Old 08-17-2017, 10:50 AM
michakaveli's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Columbia, SC
Posts: 1,719
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jakub902 View Post
Hello everyone. I have been reading the forums on changing the GP and just want to say thanks for all the great advice. Last night I took out all my GP successfully. I guess I got lucky. Only #1 and #5 put up a bit of a fight but nothing serious. I did it with the engine very hot. When it was time to take the IM off I had to use gloves to handle it. I think the hot engine was key in getting the GP out in one piece.
Also my car only has 117k miles and I have no service record of anyone changing them before. The plugs that came out were original Beru.

Today I will clean the IM and put everything back. I see people give two different torque values for the GP 20NM and 27NM. Which one is the correct torque spec for the GP?
Very nice! Dobra robota!
Reply With Quote
  #284  
Old 08-17-2017, 12:12 PM
Jakub902's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: North Brunswick, NJ
Posts: 13
Quote:
Originally Posted by michakaveli View Post
Very nice! Dobra robota!
Dzieki

__________________
99 E300TD
81 Porsche 911
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:06 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page