turbodiesel,

You buy the parts...I'll help you put it together!! - In exchange for some joy riding of course.

Philly is not that far from North Jersey!!

How has the Euro been running for you?

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I'll try and find more information. I'm curious myself.

Sounds like a plan. Euro is running great!! I love it.

It looks like he's got twin turbos. One of them is running 17 psi, and the other is about 11 - 12 psi(from what I can make out).

UGH!

I want.

I want more info.

hummmmmm, 400 hp diesel wagon. YEEEHHHHAAAAAAAAA Damnit!




When do you figure you might be able to scare up more info?



Joe

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I hope that I'll be able to chat with him tomorrow or Wednesday. Really looking forward to it!

That is most likely a 602 engine in the 190D. I don't think there is physically room for a 603 with adequate cooling but I could be wrong. Intercooling would be a requirement for big power. I don't believe they are making anywhere near 430 SAE HP. Maybe torque, but not HP. No way. Show me the dyno sheet and a video of the car + engine on the dyno.

On a side note, what is UP with those videos? Can't they get a clean video of a nice 0-200kmh run? Looks like they were just screwing around or somthing - I don't get it.

I do want to know more about the engines, and what they did, etc... you can turn the IP governor max RPM up to let the engine rev to 5500-6000, but there's no point unless the engine is making power up there. The stock setup tapers off above ~4500 or so and there's little to be gained by revving beyond ~5000. I'm not sure you can move the powerband higher up with the stock camshaft...???

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Great. So what make, year, model do you have, and what specific engine modifications did you do to get 0-60mph in 7.6 seconds?

Wow those vids are sweet. When he was getting those real bad flares the dude says something... sounds like "baby" or "maybe" mostlikely not english I presume. Engine life dramatically cut short?

God that's sweet though.

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Didn't you say this guy was in Finland? Maybe those acceleration runs were done on ice.

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I'm not sure you can get any diesel to make real power over 5000 RPM. Somewhere I picked up the impression that 5K is a more-or-less fundamental limitation of diesel cycle internal combustion powerplants. Something about the speed of the flame front inside the cylinder - the fuel just doesn't burn fast enough. At higher RPMs there isn't time for the fuel to burn before the piston reaches bottom dead center.

Unlike gasoline engines we didn't see diesel redlines and/or powerbands move upward during the shift from OHV to SOHC to DOHC. Even the twin cam, 24 valve six in the E300 redlines at the customary ~5100 RPM. And as Rick recently demonstrated, it shifts itself at about 4600 RPM.

- JimY

Diesel combustion actually starts "chasing" the piston after 3800 rpms, but you can still make power... just not as much as you would make below 3800 rpms.

I tried to edit the thread title when I found out that it was an OM602 engine (190D 2.5 Turbo), but I guess it didn't work. I'll try again.

I haven't seen the guy recently. I was out of town yesterday and didn't have a chance to get online... but I'll keep checking.

Yes, the guys are located in Finland... don't know about the ice runs .

Yes, the videos are kind of shotty, but they give you an idea of the stupendous amount of power that they've been able to get out of the engine.

As for the transmission flaring... it is a manual transmission... no flaring there, only clutch slip and/or wheel spin.

So the question is, what can a 3.0 liter six do? Or even maybe a certain 3.5 six??:p

How about a 3.0 liter five? If these engines are stock under 200hp, how long do they last at 430hp?

Only 150k-200k maybe?

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