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Old 04-12-2004, 11:32 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Anyone been checked for untaxed fuel?

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A guy I know in North Dakota was caught running farm diesel in his pickup on his cattle farm. He was fined $2500 ( ~ 6 cows) and is in the last year of the three he was sentenced to providing fuel receipts and certified odometer statements that match his vehicle's mpg rating.
if that's not a case that makes you wonder .. heck if the vehicle was used on a farm isn't that where 'farm diesel' is supposed to be used??



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Thanks for all the replies.

I did'nt think they bothered with passenger vehicles, but it's better to be safe and ask.

The reason I brought it up at all is that I live about a mile from a major petroleum depot. All the local fuel oil co's get their loads there, and I've seen them get checked periodically.
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Never been checked for untaxed fuels, but I have for STD's!
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Old 04-12-2004, 01:09 PM
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Anyone been checked for untaxed fuel?

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if that's not a case that makes you wonder .. heck if the vehicle was used on a farm isn't that where 'farm diesel' is supposed to be used??

If the vehicle was licensed for operation on a public road, I'd say that was the problem. Farm operations are not exempt from sales tax in Oklahoma for any supplies or parts for any vehicles licensed for operation on public roads and highways -- EVEN IF THE OWNER'S MAIN USE IS IN AGRICULTURE. Most other states have similar tax rules and regulations.
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Old 04-12-2004, 01:52 PM
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oh ok, i get it, if the truck wasn't registered then it would be ok to run it on farm diesel.
still though, sounds like a pretty harsh interpretation to me..


now, what if you have a diesel powered boat...
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Anyone been checked for untaxed fuel?

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if that's not a case that makes you wonder .. heck if the vehicle was used on a farm isn't that where 'farm diesel' is supposed to be used??

Yes - but it's not the license - it's the operation. He can run all over his property with untaxed fuel - but operation on a public highway is where the exemption stops - but wait it gets more confusing - you can operate a combine on a public highway with untaxed fuel, because you can't register the vehicle for highway use

The best one I saw was the pickups used by the railroad with the fold down train wheels (trucks). Pulled up to the crossing retracted the wheels and hit the highway right by where we were working --- oops red fuel.
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"now, what if you have a diesel powered boat..."

Pleasure boats never get checked. We actually don't have to pay road taxes, I know if you buy something like over 200 or 300 gallons of gas a season you can get your road taxes back, diesel I assume is the same, However I know of a few boats whose owners own oil companies. I'm sure they run exclusively on heating oil.
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oh ok, i get it, if the truck wasn't registered then it would be ok to run it on farm diesel.
still though, sounds like a pretty harsh interpretation to me..
Anyone who uses their vehicles for farming, or other offroad business use, can apply for and receive a refund on their road fuel tax for the amount that their vehicles were used offroad.
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Anyone who uses their vehicles for farming, or other offroad business use, can apply for and receive a refund on their road fuel tax for the amount that their vehicles were used offroad.
Hmmm..., "Mercedes Benz bailer"?????
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Hmmm..., "Mercedes Benz bailer"?????
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Hmmm..., "Mercedes Benz bailer"?????
Mount a bail spike on the back of your M-B and add a brush guard up front and you'll be all set.

I USE IT TO FEED MY COWS!!!!
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"now, what if you have a diesel powered boat..."

Pleasure boats never get checked. We actually don't have to pay road taxes, I know if you buy something like over 200 or 300 gallons of gas a season you can get your road taxes back, diesel I assume is the same, However I know of a few boats whose owners own oil companies. I'm sure they run exclusively on heating oil.
Actually, it goes even further than that...I think that marinas around here only sell red diesel. Of course they still rape us on the price but I've never been on a diesel-powered boat (and I've been on quite a few ) where the fuel wasn't red...

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Mount a bail spike on the back of your M-B and add a brush guard up front and you'll be all set.

I USE IT TO FEED MY COWS!!!!
Now there's something I haven't yet seen down here in OK, but it would not shock me at all. Actually, when my wife wouldn't let me put naked-lady mudflaps on the duramax, she said I could put them on the benz. I wonder if Ranchhand makes a replacement front bumper for Mercedes?
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Never been checked for untaxed fuels, but I have for STD's!
egggadddddddd and you announce this on the net?.... I know I wouldn't go near you if I knew you had four different STD's. ohhhhhh...... :p not those kinda STD's


okkkk.. so it was a real bad joke.
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Back when I was a kid, 50 years ago,

23 miles NE of the mythical site of Lake Wobegon (one of Garrison Keillor's books [and the National Geographic article] has a picture of a farm belonging to one of my father-in-law's cousins), all the farmers used to put a trailer hitch on every new car they bought, as soon as they bought it, in an attempt to justify taking a tax deduction for depreciation of the car as a farm machine. Of course, almost all of them made so little net income that they rarely owed income taxes anyway in those days.

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